I’m in the same situation as you, old bike on the trainer and to lazy to change the power meter over every time. I just changed the config of both my power meters to read lower so that they match my Kickr instead. The Favero Assioma pedals for example are reading -4,5% now.
Doensn’t look as impressive on Strava but at least all I have a consistent number to train with.
Hi Guys,
Sounds very cool. I have a question. I am a relatively experienced rider and have been training with structure for a few years. I’m new to TR as of early this year and am half way through MVSS 2. I rarely fail workouts (so far), however I do suffer from delayed onset fatigue (by circa 2 days from a tough, or string of tough rides). I’m quite self aware of this and when it hits I’ll likely just swap a planned workout for an easy ride outdoors. I almost never can finish a full week on my plan, which I am totally ok with. This has been a successful approach for me over the past few years and have had good, relatively consistent, progression ( I say this as, for my N of 1, I feel I am doing the right thing).
My question is even though I am not failing workouts will there be an option for me to tell TR that I have chosen to skip, or replace, a scheduled workout, for something easier because I am tired from a work out I did a few days earlier?
Thanks
Possibly OT, but I’ve rebuilt using PlanBuilder and back-dated to start of my existing plan/season start numerous times last year. It seems like it handles things just fine. Sometime’s I’ve had to delete before I re-built but otherwise it was great.
If this was already apparent in @mcneese.chad 's reply to the OP,then my apologies. I maybe should have responded to @philrcook
Cheers.
Omg that’s the exact power pedals I have.
How did you come up with the 4.5% number?
I don’t really want to lower my kickr power numbers
Generally speaking, if you have have any plan installed on your Calendar, I think it’s best to delete it prior to running Plan Builder to make a new / redo of a plan.
Noting that, I am not the PB expert, and there could be different approaches that are better than what I describe.
Power match is part of the TR app that allows you to use a power meter separate from a smart trainer to record and set power targets to control the resistance. So if you were to put your new bike with the power pedals on the trainer, you would pair both the trainer and the power pedals to the app. The app would use the power from the pedals to record your power and the trainer would set resistance based on that power data rather than the power data of the trainer. Below is the TR blog post if what I typed doesn’t make any sense.
I use the same bike on the trainer as I do outdoors, so I use the pedal power everywhere. That keeps my numbers relative to each other.
Hmm ok
Thanks fir the info!!!
Maybe I’m being thick but where is this? Just did a mock plan builder for next year (so blank calendar), it populated the calendar fine, but when I clicked on the ‘Build Phase’ annotation it would allow me to change to VOLUME of the build phase, but not the TYPE of build (i.e. General build, sustained build, tri build etc.). Same thing when i clicked on Base phase - lets me change volume but not type of base (i.e. SSB, Tri base etc)
Click on this little chevron and it will open up a drop down menu to pick a different build phase. It should give you this option for the annotation at the beginning of each block. If it doesn’t, you might be best to email support@trainerroad.com for them to take a look.
Thanks for that. It doesn’t seem to be there on the Tri plans (at least not for base or build). However on specialty it allows we to swap between Sprint Tri, Olympic Tri, Half Tri etc.
Be great if could allow swap to SSB and General/Sustained build on Tri plans too!
Depending on how stupid, even consider the folks over at CVRcade. Sorry, was that my outside voice…
Gotcha. I think for build it should still allow you to change between any of the Triathlon build plans, so if it isn’t showing that for you, I would definitely contact support.
That said, I’ll note that my drop down for build does not include any tri plan build options. I suspect this means that changing between the tri and other cycling disciplines isn’t something it is capable of? You should at lease be able to swap between the sprint, olympic, half and full plans in each stage though.
It’s the Kickr that is reading 4.5% low. Xqli set a -4.5% offset on the pedals so that they match the Kickr reading to keep both inside and outside training consistent. They now all read 4.5% too low.
Correct. I did a week of workouts where I coupled the pedals with me GPS and I noticed that on average the pedals read 4,5% higher than the Kickr.
I’ll have to now do the same for the 4iiii one on the gravel bike.
DC Rainmaker has a nice tool. But if you want a free one you can also use the Zwiftpower dual recording one to analyse your files.
Thanks. I will check out dc’s analyzer.
I watched the launch podcast again yesterday while training, and you referred to the aerobic (endurance) TrainNow recommendations including endurance and tempo workouts, so I might get tempo recommendations yet!
Thanks Chad. That’s what figured out after trading some email with your always awesome support folks.
Just thought I’d share an experience with the workout ratings (I’m not really doing a plan at the moment so I’m not taking full advantage of the adaptive training).
Last week I did two vo2 workouts, Bluebell (3 blocks of 6x1min at 120%) and on Wed I did a custom one where it was 4 blocks of 3x90sec at 120%). Bluebell is rated 4.5 and my custom one obviously isn’t rated yet. This past Tuesday I did Dade -1, which is 3 sets of 3x2min @ 120% and rated 6.3, so considered a stretch. I may have been having a bad day but I struggled through that one. Today, I did Monadnock -2, rated a 5.1 (and ‘productive’) for me and I nailed it, the last interval was tough though. It may be a combo of potentially being more physically ready today and psychological by believing a workout is productive and not a stretch, but I’m optimistic of using progressions as a tool to select workouts to gradually challenge me.
I had Dade +4 on my plan last week and failed it hard. If Dade -1 is a 6.3, then the one I did must have been quite high and far above my progression. I’m actually so beat from work this week (full gas all day with failing sleep each night) that I’m skipping today’s workout which would have progressed beyond Dade +4.
I guess what I’m saying is that I’m looking forward to having access to the workout scores so I can get something that actually fits my current VO2 progression level. It’s been my weakest area for a while now and I’ve not found a good TR plan to address that weakness for me.
Joe is correct.
