🎉 🎉 🎉 Introducing Adaptive Training! 🎉 🎉 🎉

[Nate_Pearson]

@commanderobvious

I’m hoping that is what AT will turn the TrainNow feature into. Right now, I have the same question. It offers 3 workouts of varying intensities regardless of the day or fatigue. Been checking since it came to the Beta to see how the workout suggestions compare to my plan, but it also leaves the rider to decide. I think that Nate had mentioned that the survey data is needed before it would start suggesting recovery weeks/days so this might be a future iteration.

This is correct. This is also the vision too.

[Nate_Pearson]

@Chester_Grimpeur

Wouldn’t bother, the question of what the roll out is going to look like has been asked loads and not answered. So I don’t expect it to happen soon. The cynic in me thinks this was a bit of a stunt to hush the Dylan Thomas video.

I’ve answered this question a few times. Please see the post above. I’ll also say it on the podcast this week (if I remember).

[Nate_Pearson]

@anon13702412

As your name suggest you are benefiting from they GDPR legislation. So, if they use the data in ways not disclosed, they will expose themselves too significant fines. If it’s fraudulent even worse. Plus you can sue them for compensation.

This is true. You can also delete your data and we’ll delete everything we have.

There are some big fines too!

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[Nate_Pearson]

@IceBear

Does AT have a way of marking training activities to be ‘ignored’ by the AI? For the next week to 10 days my rides will look very different and when I get access I’d like these to be excluded from my ML projections.

You can delete them, mark it as “time off”, or just don’t do them.

[Zissou]

3/4% of 400 is 12-16

So for my ftp it’s 12- which at threshold after 20 minutes is an important amount

Can use power match but over summer it’s easier to have my bike with the PM being used outside with my cross bike on the turbo. First world problem I know but just wondering is all.

[Nate_Pearson]

@Captain_Doughnutman

Q: will custom workouts (and non-plans) be subject to AT treatment?

Custom workouts will have AT levels assigned to it by launch.

As of now, it’s only Plan Builder plans, but “ad-hoc” plans will have it in the next couple weeks.

“non-plans” won’t have it, but if there is a big outcry for it we can look into doing that.

[Chester_Grimpeur]

@Nate_Pearson

question

I think the point that hasn’t been answered is if this is going to be days, weeks, months, years!

Totally appreciate that you can’t give guarantees, but do you expect the majority of people to have access in days, weeks, months etc?

At the moment people know “how” you are going to roll it out… but not “when”.

[Nate_Pearson]

@ntdeck

Sorry if this has been covered in the 1K post above but… will there be a way to make the weekday workouts 45mins by default with adaptive training? Or would I have to simply pick the minus versions of the prescribed workouts as I do now with a plan that was made through plan builder?

No, but that’s definitely on the list. The best way to do this would be to click on alternates and select 45 min. That will bring up the correct 45 min workout.

I suspect we’ll let you add how much time you have to train each day, then start doing time adjustment based on that.

Note: Just because you say you have 5 hours doesn’t mean we’ll give you a 5 hour ride.

[Nate_Pearson]

@DaveWh

Will the AT algorithm provide any recommendations on changes to training intensity distribution (I.e. beyond just recommended workout intensity changes within a given plan)?

E.g. “based on your performance and reaction to past workouts, we recommend you do less threshold workouts and more endurance”. (I’m using this as an example, not intending to restart the POL vs SS debate).

Maybe a roadmap item if not in the current algorithm?

Yes and No.

We do have our FTP prediction give some people higher FTP predictions on lower volume plans (but not all people). That part isn’t currently built into the plan builder flow. We need to do more validation of our prediction and increase accuracy.

There’s currently not micro intensity distribution built into AT. We think we need the qualitative survey data before we do that with ML (and we might need additional data like HRV or resting HR).

But…AT also reduces the intensity for most people out of the box. When you’re in that natural “hard” or occasional “very hard” on your hard days, and the easier days feel easier, you have a lower chance of getting broken down.

But…there are no guard rails in place if you wanted to put your three intense days back to back. We don’t stop you from doing that ATM but that’s definitely a goal.

[bfrostieone]

What’s an “ad-hoc” plan?

[triggerdog]

Thanks so much for the response Nate! Fascinated to see how it’s going to work and can’t wait.

Follow up question. How does AT response to you straight up manually deleting workouts from a plan. Would it try to replace it for you? And would it consider them as ‘failed’ rides if you just don’t do them?

[mcneese.chad]

A training plan (specifically a Base, Build or Specialty phase) added via the “old” manual method, vs using the newer Plan Builder tool.

[PWeber]

And would a “non plan” be a self created plan using TR workouts and/or a self created plan using a mix of custom & TR workouts?

[norm1539]

@Nate_Pearson

I suspect we’ll let you add how much time you have to train each day, then start doing time adjustment based on that.

Please this

[bfrostieone]

Thanks!

[rkoswald]

Yes, 3-4% (12-16 watts in your case) would make a difference. (BTW, I thought you meant 3/4% = 0.75% = 0.0075.)

[G650]

@Nate_Pearson

“non-plans” won’t have it, but if there is a big outcry for it we can look into doing that.

This is me 100% of the time. It’s not a non-plan in reality, but my own custom plan.

[pats]

Hi @Nate_Pearson. I had a recent ramp test where I unfortunately lost power connection at the end. Not sure how much longer I would have been able to hold on but at that point 30sec-1min makes a huge difference
I did not accept the new suggested ftp, but will I be able to “uncheck” or delete workouts like this so that it’s not “calculated” towards other workouts in the adaptive training?
Ty

[Jkauffman]

Sorry… last question. I’m looking at my iPhone app and can’t find it, how do I get the beta version ?
Thanks!!

[PWeber]

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