Yeah, depending on the PL you have for Endurance, and the levels you choose for the extra rides, those could well be high enough to kick up your Endurance Progression Level.
Seems more likely considering that there is not a ton of Endurance Level work in a Low Volume plan in most cases. I think that could work well to fill in the āgapā and kick up the Endurance PL nicely.
Got hit by the sync bug today and didnāt realise. Really long day (went into train at nearly 23:00) so I picked a slightly easier adaptationā¦ except whilst it synced to the web, it didnāt sync to my garage computer. I didnāt notice, and did the full fat version anyway.
Iāll take it as a win. lol
Ive just started the AT Beta, and its giving me double workouts on some Tuesdays. MV Plan
next Tuesday is week 2 and have VO2 Max 1hr and Bald Knob -2 scheduled.
Is this normal, or have i done something wrong, searching forum, couldnt find anything recent in relation to double scheduled workouts?
HUgh
No, double is not normal.
Are you sure your calendar was completely empty from old plans before applying any new one?
If you moved workouts from an old plan, they can be left behind even if you delete the old plan.
Ok thanks, maybe they were there already. My bad!
Workouts in specialization plans can be rather sensitive to holes in the workout library with AT.
In the mid-distance triathlon plan, in specialization, I had a 2.5h race tempo effort, i.e. essentially a race day simulation. It got adapted to a 1h Olympic distance pace effort.
I went back and forth with support a few times and we established that this was indeed the closest match in difficulty in the library, but Iām not sure I got across that this was just wrong in terms of periodization/specialization.
Luckily itās easy to fix these kind of mistakes by hand but it does make me understand why AT is going to be in beta for quite a bit longer 
Iām a little disappointed and confused. Iāve nailed every workout for weeks, and the only adaptations that I ever get is to make everything easier. Iām feeling stronger than a few weeks ago and it just bumps everything down, not even keep things unchanged.
Shoot an email to support. There are so many factors at play here ā where you are in your plan, what zones it is actually trying to progress (itās chasing progress in relevant zones not all of them), indoor vs. outdoor (changed in the last week or so), survey responses per workout, etc. As such, weād need a lot more information (and granular information at that) to understand why it may be doing what itās doing, so support would be your best bet to answer your questions and address any confusion.
Is AT applied to the Polarization training plan too? If itās not, what happens if the workout said: ānot recommendedā? I didnāt see any alternative workouts to choose from.
I do all my rides indoors. Just finished LV SSB 1 and I add 30-45 min aerobic to each ride and when I have time extra endurance rides on off days. Every ride was moderate or easy score and no fails. Just had ramp test last week on a tired day and ftp went up by 4w and I manually increased it another 5. 1st SS ride after felt easy and had to manually increase the last setās intensity 10%. Then yesterday had my 1st hard rated ride which 3x10 over unders bookended by 20min aerobic and I added more aerobic (starlight -2). Today, it wants to lower my workouts on SSās from 3.6 to 3.1. Why???
Sounds really odd. Are you able to post a screenshot of your last week or two?
Increasing FTP will result in reduced PLs, so that could explain part of it. Also note that AT doesnāt account for those extra rides from my current understanding, so while they mean something to you, the ML doesnāt get it quite yet. In any case, a drop of .5 isnāt huge, and below is my best guess as to whatās happening. To be clear, this is 100% pure speculation as I have no inside knowledge at all.
It is possible the aim for the next workout is to be achievable rather than productive. In my experience this means the workout level can be anything equal to your current PL to anything down to 1.0. If itās doing this, I assume (and itās a big assumption) youāre getting into threshold or VO2 workouts of base now, and itās looking to maintain your SS level while progressing your threshold or VO2 instead. If this is the case, my guess is that it wants your SS work to be moderate rather than hard so you can nail the other workouts instead. This is what I meant by relevant zones in my initial reply. AT appears to me to focus on one zone at a time while maintaining the others it has already progressed. In your case, my guess is itās happy with your SS level currently and is now targeting threshold or VO2 instead.
Again, to get a very direct and honest answer, Iād recommend emailing support@trainerroad.com. They have actual answers rather than my wild speculation.
Sure. Here are the last 2 weeks with the proposed adaptations. 2 weeks ago was a recovery week of LVSSB1. I switched to a MV plan because I feel recovered from my Ironman 6 weeks ago
it seems like you havenāt done a lot of vo2 or sweet spot stuff, which is why adaptive training is pushing your levels down in those areas. I donāt want to state the obvious, but each area is scored independently of each other. So youāre getting a vo2 1.6 tomorrow because you likely havenāt done any scored vo2 work near the 4.3 level
Hi TrainerRoad team, et al,
I fear this question has been answered multiple timesā¦if someone would kindly direct me to the answer whether it be addressed in a previous post and/or a faq. Here goesā¦
Iāve recently need invited into the Adaptive Training Closed Beta. Having just completed Specialty Phase (non-Adaptive), Iād like to jump straight to Build Phase (and bypass Base Phase I&II) . Would someone please let me know how this is achieved in the Adaptive Training Closed Beta? Is it just as simple as pressing the āActivate Adaptive Trainingā Button on the closed beta email invitation, setting up my next 12 mos training Plan via Plan Builder, deleting Base I & II Phases from my training calendar and then moving up Build Phase to my desired start date?
Much appreciated,
Blake
Looking at this, I think my speculation may have been correct. Youāll notice the progression for threshold has remained constant (0.5 increase week over week) while the workouts around it are being dropped a bit. This says to me it is working up your Threshold Level now and dropping the others so it can keep that progression ramp going strong. There is an argument to be made that your levels donāt need to drop in SS and VO2, but I can also see the argument of dropping them to shift focus as well.
Thx. I guess Iāll have to trust it for now.
Iām not so sure. I canāt quite work it out, but I think the PLās are just all low. Youāre not getting PL bumps from the workouts youāre doing and so AT doesnāt want to progress further.
I donāt know what the reason behind that is, whether thereās some āfailure/struggleā being picked up, or just that it hasnāt seen enough workouts prior to AT to put you higher than a 1-2.
I also might be wildly off track and if so I apologise. Hopefully @IvyAudrain can chime in?
This is definitely the right move. The support team has the best, most accurate visibility to the full scope of your plan, progressions, workouts that may or may not be contributing to your PLs, etc. Give them a shout!
They all look relatively reasonable to me being in the 4-5 range for SS and Threshold. VO2 level being so low is probably just because they havenāt done many VO2 workouts recently. That then gets into decay rates and becomes a different issue entirely that I think most agree isnāt currently working as expected by most users.
In any case, I just started a new base phase leading into a hill climb and fondo later this year, and all my levels are floating around 3 to 4-ish currently. Consider also they increased their FTP twice recently, which would push down levels, and that TR has said to start with Level 4 workouts if youāre trying things manually, Iād say theyāre well within the ballpark for the correct levels of the workouts.
