Ah, yes, I see what you mean - had not spotted that my PL was 4.8. Unfortunately I don’t know 100% what it was before I made the association! I suppose I could break it again and check. The highest I’d done before was West Vidette +1 on Friday which was marked Stretch 4.5, so possibly it has gone up by 0.3 - just confusing that the ride isn’t tagged as such.
Weirdly, none of my recent TR rides (done through the app) are showing the primary/secondary progressions in the browser any more, but they are in Android - that must be a new bug…
Ahh, yes, hard to say then if it’s worked or not I haven’t done any outside stuff in awhile but I do want to try this again soon with the new fix to see how it goes.
And you’re right! I just checked the inside workout I did this evening and the primary/secondary progression is missing there too (on the web - it’s also fine in Android). That’s definitely new, because I was seeing them in the web a few days ago (and Windows/Android both had a bug with it showing different numbers, now fixed). It’s definitely in a state of flux
I used to be in the camp of extending workouts to fill time, but now that I use AT, I don’t. The issue is that AT is suggesting 1 hour workouts while I have 2 hours to fill. Is it better to find a 2 hour workout using the alternate workout list, or do the prescribed workout and then a 1 hour endurance workout afterward?
That really depends what you want out of it - doing a 2hr variant of say a threshold workout will be a lot more TSS than doing the 1 hour equivalent and then a 1 hour endurance. Doing an extra hour endurance workout will be closer to what you were doing before.
Just been back through my history - last one which shows progressions on web is State from July 27th. I have 3 more recent TR indoor workouts than that, from August 4th, 6th and 7th, and none of them have PL progressions showing in browser (but the PL progressions do show in the Android app, suggesting it’s a display issue).
I don’t see PL progressions on any platform for the outdoor ride from last night that I manually associated using the new feature, however my PLs on the career page do seem to be correctly updated - this may or may not be a bug…
Maybe I’m misremembering, but wasn’t there some kind of discrepancy between the apps and the web regarding this? Might just be a continuation of that bug compounded by the new update.
I also don’t see the progressions on the workout page, but my levels are updating with completed workouts outdoors.
There was a discrepancy, where web showed the correct progression and the apps were showing all sorts of weird progressions (it would say the wrong category, or the wrong before → after levels etc, or both).
But that got fixed, it was OK for a while, and now I have a new bug where the web doesn’t show any before and after levels at all
Just got in today, want to confirm my understanding of current state. Are the following all true?
PLs are incorrectly calculated for custom workouts, but applied if you ride the workout
PLs are not applied if you ride outside and associate with indoor TR workout (either regular or custom)
PLs are applied for outdoor scheduled workouts if you select the outdoor variant on the calendar
PLs are only applied if the workout is scheduled prior to workout push from headunit or Strava
If the above is correct, if I want to get PLs for custom workouts, I just need to find a roughly equivalent workout in the category that has an outdoor variant and schedule it in the calendar?
I also got in today and have a couple of questions:
my current plan (via plan builder) ends next week after which i will go on a two-week holiday from the bike. Does it make sense to transition to adaptive training now? or should I wait until I am back in early September and then build a new plan with AT?
I usually have my PM connected to Zwift and follow the prompts on the TR app (but without having power connected). I then upload the Zwift workout to TR and match this Zwift session with the planned TR workout. Is my understanding correct that this won’t work with AT? The matched workouts seem to be recognised as outside workouts e.g “OutsideEndurance 4.1”.
PLs are automatically calculated for custom workouts. TR used auto calculation and manual auditing on the TR workout catalog. Therefore PL assignment might be different and inconsistent.
PL updating was enhanced last week. Last week these two outdoor, custom workouts that were assigned by my coach and synced from TrainingPeaks:
were responsible for bumping my Endurance and VO2Max to 5.3. But it doesn’t show on the tiles, as it would for indoor workouts. I’m using a Garmin to record.
So right now the Friday announcement is a bit interesting and we are discovering what works and what doesn’t.
You’re about to get a load of replies I suspect - but 1. is true, the auto levels can be a bit off.
is no longer true following Ivy’s announcement upthread. If you do an outdoor ride, then go into TR and manually associate an outdoor ride with it, you will get PL credit.
Technically yes, that should work
No, needs to come from Garmin Connect for TR to correctly and automatically identify the workout. But with the above fix, it should not matter too much. You can bring any ride in from Strava, associate it with a TR workout, and get PL credit.
My issues with PLs above are purely to do with how it’s being displayed - the PLs on my career page are being updated as expected.
Not sure it matters too much if you only have a week left - may as well switch it on to see the PLs…
That is no longer correct after Friday’s announcement. Now, if you match any outdoor ride to a TR workout (from Zwift or from any other source), you will get PL credit. So your method should work fine
thanks for the quick reply. although the adaptation doesn’t seem to have worked, all my PLs are at 1.0 now
I guess I will just start with a fresh plan in september and see where AT takes me
another vlog for me, 20 weeks of documenting this thing! doing a week of ssb2 Hv filler before CX specialty because I changed the date of my A race, so we’ll see how far I can bring my sweet spot from 3.7 lol
Hi. I just got accepted to the adaptive training today and did a terrible ramptest, so i declined the “new” ftp. Was 12% lower, now my progression levels still is the same as before the test, Is that because i declined the “new” lower ftp?
I haven’t done any outside stuff in awhile but I do want to try this again soon with the new fix to see how it goes.
