🎉 🎉 🎉 Introducing Adaptive Training! 🎉 🎉 🎉

[FatBoySlim]

Question. I am running AT and am in my last week of the build and next week start my specialty section. Should there not be a ftp test for the specialty? Or is AT increasing the workouts so that a ftp test is not needed?

[jazir1979]

Hmm I’m starting century specialty next week and a ramp test is scheduled. I’m not sure if there are cases where plan builder skips it for specialty? I can’t say I’ve ever seen that. Is your specialty phase being shortened by plan builder due to the timing you had available? That could explain it.

I can confirm that I don’t have one in the middle of the specialty phase, but that’s as per the plan.

[FatBoySlim]

Yes you are correct. My 700Km Rockies Stage race is 3 weeks into specialty. Seems pretty advanced if its skipping the Ramp test to focus on structure.

Still kind of want a ramp test to see. lol.

[bobmcstuff]

@TxAg15

I assume that eventually (soon I hope?) manual FTP updates will have the same effect on PLs as doing a ramp test?

Is there definitely a difference as it stands? I thought it just went off change in FTP…

[AldridgePrior]

@Green

If you have also done a ramp test: was the app calculation in your case right or also wrong as in my case?

You should definitely raise a ticket with TR Support regarding that UI display mis-calculation error (wrongly stating 1.2% instead of 12.4%). I don’t recall anyone else posting about that issue previously, so perhaps it’s crept in recently.

[Green]

Thanks for your advice. I have sent that email right now to the support.

[Green]

After my PLs got reset to 1.0, the workouts haven’t changed. till now
So I have for example:
Endurance 1.1 (today)
Threshold 4.0 (tomorrow)
Anaerobic 1.7 (day after tomorrow)
Sweet Spot 3.1 (next week Tuesday)
VO2 max 5.8 (with the info within the workout “Not Recommended”).

Therefore I still don’t understand that reset of all my levels to 1.0 and then having “not recommended” workouts in my calendar. I have just sent an email to the support.

[PWeber]

Interesting. Were adaptions recommended and if so accepted or rejected?

[TxAg15]

Maybe I found a bug then? I’ll check again on my next test/change in a few weeks. I thought they reset to 1 the other day when I fired up this training plan and made a tiny manual change in FTP.

[Textuality]

Is there any plan for an interface showing levels over time? I appreciate that I can look back through my previous rides and do it manually, but obviously that’s a bit of a pain!

[bobmcstuff]

All I can say from my own personal experience is I manually reset my FTP down (288 to 275) following some food poisoning and mine did not reset to 1.

[roadbiketrevor]

I also think this would be a cool feature!

[IvyAudrain]

@IvyAudrain

I can confirm, when viewing the ride analysis page, you may see a false decrease in Progression Levels if you completed a ride below your current level. To clarify, completing a ride below your progression level should not actually drop your progression levels .
Those false decreases can be seen on the ride analysis page, but are also displaying on workout cards on the Career and Calendar pages, not just on the Past Ride Details page.
This false decrease display won’t actually change your Progression Levels, and you should still see accurate PLs on your Career page.

UPDATE: The fix for this has been released!
After updating, if you’re still experiencing inaccuracies in the display of your Progression Levels between Career Page and calendar, workouts, etc, please reach out to the team at support@trainerroad.com.

[IvyAudrain]

@Textuality

Is there any plan for an interface showing levels over time? I appreciate that I can look back through my previous rides and do it manually, but obviously that’s a bit of a pain!

YES! A Progression Level history feature is on the roadmap.

[IceBear]

Morning @IvyAudrain. This bug is not fixed :(. I have inconsistencies between the web and IOS and MacBook. IOS and Mac still showing negative progression level adjustments in the calendar view and the web showing incorrect progression level adjustments (this time positive) and I believe incorrect workout levels as well. When I finish this ride I’ll email support. Thanks

[IvyAudrain]

Definitely email support. Thank you.

[PWeber]

Thanks for the update. Should the fix correct the classifications (stretch etc…) and progressions in historical activities?

[hubcyclist]

So I’m adding a C crit for this coming Sat to my calendar, can I hit recalculate plan without fear I will bork anything AT related? lol

[IceBear]

Thanks @IvyAudrain to avoid everybody wondering the same thing here is what I’ve sent to support:

I’m definitely still seeing big mistakes in the calendar cards for completed workouts and I’m seeing differences between platforms.

1. I’m still seeing negative progression level adjustments for workouts I completed last week, both in the IOS app and in the Mac desktop app. These are now no negatives in the web client. See 13th-16th below.

2. I’m seeing rides categorised as Productive on the Mac, but Achievable on the web client. There are lots of mismatches - see 7th, 8th, 14th, 21st, and 22nd below.

3. I’m seeing rides showing progression level increases on the Mac, but no increases on the web client. See 6th below

4. When I have earned progression level adjustments they are not consistent between clients. See the 6th, 14th, 22nd below.

[magootinker]

Same for me. Not fixed. TR app on Mac and iOS app on phone and iPad both still have the same issues. However, TR webpage shows correct progressions on individual completed workouts. Is the reported fix delivered from TR server when the apps sync or only applied via update to iOS and Mac apps versions? (currently running latest version on all, and no updates for either are yet available on App Store).