I’ve had this on the iOS app. Seem to only happen to me right at the end of the ride.
Just kill it and log in and it’s fine (or log in somewhere else - like a browser). It’s a bug (reported).
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Have my latest vlog up. Hopefully if I do a crit this weekend I’ll be able to bridge between AT and my performance in competition so if you’re curious I’d urge you to sub and stay tuned!
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Is anybody else seeing workouts in the calendar with different Levels on different interfaces? See below the same workout is both Breakthrough and Not Recommended. The Progression Levels are also different. (-1.6 and +0.1). These images are from the Web client, and the IOS app.
I believe it’s a known bug due to under the hood stuff they’ve been changing.
I had a completed workout yesterday that was WL5.2, my PL is 6.4, and the rating was “not recommended” and scored +5.2.
I came on here and saw there has been some funky stuff with the Levels displayed etc due to a change they made, but Ivy said it doesn’t effect actual PL (which is my experience, PL are fine).
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CONFIRMED. Your Career Page ‘Progression Levels’ area is the only safe place to accurately show your PLs right now haha. Apologies for all the confusion and trouble, we’re hustling to get that fixed. As many of these bugs turn out, its trickier under the hood than it seems. 
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I hope that fix for the progression levels dropping after an FTP test isn’t in yet, because I just did a test today and all my levels dropped by ~4.
Hi there, after my Ramp Test today ALL progression levels went down to 1.0; before the ramp test, they have been between 5.4 - 2.3 - 3.7 - 4.5 - 5.8 - 1.1 - 1.0.
The (very gentle and ultra fast!) chat support at first responded, “In short, Progression Levels automatically adjust if FTP changes, and while I can’t explain the exact workings here, the Levels preserve their relative relationship with each other and learn from the outcomes of your previous Ramp Tests to optimize how they adjust.”
Then the support wrote: “Because your FTP increase was so significant, it caused all of them to reset. If your FTP increased only a small bit, then they would all lower, but likely at different rates.”
Furthermore the calculated FTP gain of 1,2% is wrong. It is 12,4% (217 x 1,124 = 244). Are there any negative consequences regarding the adaptions with this wrong gain percentage?
What do you guys mean: everything correct here or should I contact again the support?
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I’d try again with Support. I can’t believe that this is the intended design of Adaptive Training.
If it is intended, it leaves the athlete with no option but to try and choose a PL somewhere at or below their old numbers for their first workout (if they happened to screen shot them), or selecting the clearly ridiculous level of 1. How do they make that decision? Surely AT can do better with a reasonable guess to start with that gets tweaked up or down based on the outcome of the first workouts.
It’s not listed as a bug, so I hope this isn’t the solution!
in my case, I have avoided making any changes to my FTP on Beta for this very reason. I’m just progressing the PL’s. Not ideal, but there is the benefit of progressing the PL’s further than i have ever done before (Threshold at least).
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Thank you @PWeber. I was so happy after increasing my FTP today and now I am kind of frustrated because I don’t know what happens to the planned workouts and my further progression, if the workouts will not be adapted right. I wasn’t aware of that “after ramp test progression level situation”.
217 to 244 is a big jump (it is clearly 12.4% - they are right there - 244-217=27, 27/217=0.124, 0.124=12.4%). I would expect a big reduction in PL as well. Whether they should all be 1 - I don’t know, but it’s possibly reasonable.
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Thanks @bobmcstuff . If you have also done a ramp test: was the app calculation in your case right or also wrong as in my case?
It is absolutely reasonable that if your FTP changes your PLs will also change - if you imagine completing a SS workout at 217 FTP where the intervals are at say 206 (95%), it’s going to be very, very difficult with a 12% FTP bump - the intervals would be 232 instead! The PLs are relative to your FTP - if your FTP changes, so will the PLs.
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I reduced my FTP following a bout of food poisoning - my PLs increased to match (kind of the inverse of your situation). I can’t interrogate the underlying logic/maths, but the workouts felt OK afterwards.
Most people rarely if ever see FTP bumps that big at once, you should be stoked! 
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Can someone clarify what level workouts AT comes up with after resetting PL’s to 1.0?
Do you get a workout at level 1, the base workout from the non adapted published plan for that stage of the plan, or something else?
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I haven’t had everything reset to 1.0 but I did have a large reduction in PLs after my last ramp test and my Threshold level went from 3.1 to 1.3. It was at 3.1 because I’d struggled in a 4.4 a few weeks earlier, and in subsequent weeks I had events on the weekend which meant I hadn’t actually done any further threshold workouts. Going to 1.3 seemed a bit much, when my FTP rise after the ramp test was tiny.
I can confirm that my very next workout was reduced to Buttertubs +2 (Threshold 1.6) - listed as productive at the time. I probably could have used alternates to go a bit higher, but I’ve decided to just go with things for now. I then went through Centennial -2 (Threshold 2.3) the week after, then Charlotte (Threshold 2.9) the week after that.
So now my level hasn’t even reached what it was prior and I’m back in another recovery week!
At this rate I can imagine my threshold level never increase beyond 3/4, and I can see why some would be worried about being undercooked by this. For now I’m just happy to not be overcooked, and going with the flow 
If it becomes more of a concern I think choosing a harder alternate would short-circuit things.
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I assume that eventually (soon I hope?) manual FTP updates will have the same effect on PLs as doing a ramp test? Asking for those of us who adjust on feel every few weeks and/or do the Kolie Moore test instead of the ramp
Hope I’m not adding more chaos with my special snowflake comments lol. Looking forward to seeing AT get more fleshed out and mature with each update. Keep up the good work, TR!
Thanks. I assumed that would be how it works, but i asked the question in the hope it might be different!
I think I will stick with my PL progressions at this point as I think any gains in FTP would be marginal (if any at all) as I can’t match longer FTP test results in Ramp Tests anyway
I’m considering doing the same, heading into specialty now, but haven’t decided yet.
One thing to be fair - in my case part of the reason my PLs flatlined is because I had a few weeks with B events which replaced workouts. If the work I did in those events counted towards PLs, it wouldn’t be so bad. So once that work is done I think it will be much better.
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Question. I am running AT and am in my last week of the build and next week start my specialty section. Should there not be a ftp test for the specialty? Or is AT increasing the workouts so that a ftp test is not needed?
Hmm I’m starting century specialty next week and a ramp test is scheduled. I’m not sure if there are cases where plan builder skips it for specialty? I can’t say I’ve ever seen that. Is your specialty phase being shortened by plan builder due to the timing you had available? That could explain it.
I can confirm that I don’t have one in the middle of the specialty phase, but that’s as per the plan.