Use the Annotation feature and select Travel, Injury or whatever you want. Set the dates and click save. It will then ask if youād like to recalculate the plan. If you hit Yes on that, it will then change up your plan to account for your time off. In some cases this will simply be removing workouts and dropping levels for the workouts when you get back to account for your time off the bike and decayed fitness. In other instances of lengthier time off, it may give you a whole new block progression.
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Add an Annotation to your Calendar and select Time Off, Illness or Injury as appropriate. Set the days and such, and once you accept that it should trigger Plan Builder to adjust as a result.
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I donāt have much new to add, but I did a group ride yesterday (first time in a looong time!) and just looking at how intervals.icu classifies different āintervalsā it really doesnāt come as a big surprise to me that classifying random rides is tough. As an example I see 14sec 92sec and 30sec intervals during a the main climb in the middle of the ride. Unstructured rides of course are fun, but I personally am not relying on them to meet any specific training goals, so Iām going to be patient regarding the classification of these type of rides just because I can imagine how tough it is to define various work portions.
This is great - thanks for posting this. And just for further clarification, if one just misses a day (i.e. planned to do todays workout but life happened) should one use this method or just miss it and let AT and/or plan builder do its thing?
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AT will adjust if you skip a workout without using the annotations feature. Iāve done so without issue. The annotations are generally for planned time off, but could be used in the way you describe and still be effective, so either way will work.
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Starting this morning, when I check my TR calendar on the web (or if I refresh the calendar view), Iām getting a pop-up / hover over that says āchecking for adaptationsā, āno adaptations requiredā. Since Iām not following a Plan Builder plan, and using workouts prescribed by my coach, what is this looking for? Or since Iām not following a Plan Builder plan / TR plan, I will never see adaptations?
Thanks
AFAIK, Plan Builder use is still a prerequisite for getting any adaptions to the workouts on your calendar.
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That was my understanding as well, but the new āchecking for adaptationsā / āNo adaptations requiredā hover over just started popping up, so Iām curious what this means
[Edited] to change āover hoverā to the correct āhover overā
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just started popping up for me, but its only been 24 hours since joining the beta!
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It means just that! A check for adaptations, and a notification that no adaptations are needed at that time, or that there are āAdaptations Pendingā for you to click, check out, and either accept or not.
It disappears after a couple seconds if no adaptations are needed. For you since youāre not on Plan Builder, youāll never see a clickable āAdaptations Pendingā popup. 
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I was hoping for a hidden feature, say rapidly click the āChecking for adaptationsā pill box 3 times and a double super secret dialog box opens to override all my 1.0 levels 
Iām so depressed at level = 1 that Iām about to text my doctor and ask for medical help 
He runs marathons and does triathlons, and should understand my dilemmaā¦ Before doing that should I file an enhancement request for the double super secret back door to overriding levels? 
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For custom workouts, should we report weird PL levels? For example, I created a custom version of Clarence King -2, to add my standard warm-up and a longer cool down, and this changed Clarence King -2 from a Threshold 5.3 (standard -2 version) to a VO2 max 8.0 (my custom version).
This is probably the largest discrepancy Iāve seen with the coding of my custom workouts.
Itās not just this I donāt think. I think they could do something similar to intervals.icu, but whatās harder is without a pre-existing structure to the ride, they donāt know how well you do. Should that 14 sec interval have been 20 secs, but you couldnāt hold it or not. They are going to have to calculate success completely differently.
Best protocol to get in touch with support so we can take a closer look! support@trainerroad.com
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For unstructured rides, like last nightās Wed worlds, Iām not sure what to think of intervals.icu:
while Xert classified it as 10+ minutes of climbing, and a difficult mixed climbing ride. Here is a pretty picture without the text stating it was 10+ minutes of focus on climbing:
And over in WKO my interest was relative % vo2max as I simply wanted to accumulate some time above 85% vo2max:
14 minutes on Wed and 10 minutes on Tue, not too shabby.
After Tuesdayās workout and coming back from an off-season break, my only goal last night was to go hard for part of the ~40-50 minute āmain eventā and not dig a hole for myself.
And here is the TR view, with Coggan Classic Threshold (91% to 105%) highlighting and markers for the āmain eventā
Since there is no a-priori structure, as you point out judging on the basis of compliance doesnāt make sense
One thought experiment I keep playing out is - if TR had access to this and possibly other information, how would it use it to update progression levels?
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yes, which thinking about it, i wonder if the focus on compliance is the wrong place to emphasize, but rather use whatever could determine how an outside ride measured against each progression for structured rides as well. compliance is kind of secondary to what work you actually accomplished.
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Just to add regarding my ride from yesterday and classifying outside rides, for a one hour portion of the 90min ride, I averaged 229w but had an NP of 260 and IF of 0.9 so Iād be curious how TR would classify the ride (I see a workout with 60mins at sweet spot classified as 9.2, but Iām at 10 now after ssb2), like would they consider that whole chunk of time or focus more on the power surges. I genuinely donāt know and will be curious to see how itās implemented
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Here are the work intervals detected by intervals.icu
Simply scanning down that list:
- for z5 I donāt see anything 2 minutes or longer. Hard to see that moving the needle on vo2max progression level
- for z6 there is one effort and barely anaerobic so hard to see it moving that needle
- which brings me round to z3 and z4, which if you loosen things up there is a longer interval to suss out like I did in the TR screenshot above. So that seems like enough stimulus to count toward something
just a few random thoughts.
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Just joined today, which is cool and built the plan with my goal in mind (a solo ride of ~220km) but no ramp scheduled? @IvyAudrain is this expected? I do have one about 4 weeks in.
The one problem I have (and have added a feature request) is time, I donāt have the time for reasons to do the longer workouts, I used to just substitute them and all was good but I swear I read in one of the many threads that changing workouts buggers it all up.
Some of my workouts have alternatives but others donāt. So as not to break stuff is it just a use trainnow with a 60 or 75-minute workout or can the calendar be changed now?
Edit: I did read it!
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In the case of the alternates not giving you stuff, Iād recommend letting support know (support@trainerroad.com). TR recently added a ton of new workouts to fill in gaps like that, so if there are still some gaps to fill, itās worth letting them know where they are.
To answer your question, TrainNow sounds like a good answer to me if you donāt have alternates. Iām not 100% on how it will interact with AT, but itās built around a lot of the same mechanics, so I would assume it is a solid substitute.
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