I may have angered the system
Not just you! We have reports of a few folks experiencing this. Should be resolved soon. Sorry for the trouble!
UPDATE: fixed!
sorry for the basic question, but where do I do that? or do I just delete the plan and make it new?
was also seeing this. after DOSing the system (smashing refresh lol) it finally worked after about 10 tries.
Most likely from the Calendar. Change the date of your final A-event.
- This commonly triggers a plan recalculation, but I’d skip the first offering of the option.
- Set the A-event back to the original date, and then accept the offer to update the plan.
I haven’t done this, but think that is the process.
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well it looks like it set the start date of my plan to today, not seeing where to modify the start date of my plan, the end date is still the same
Did you change your A-event to a different day, and then back to your actual desired date for it?
I actually don’t think I have an A event or any if I can recall
I just set the date to Oct 3, so maybe I can set an event for then
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Ohhh, not sure what to do in that case. Adding an event and then even deleting it might trigger as needed.
Sorry for the barrage of posts! I tried to add an A event, and such. But I think basically whatever logic my AT plan had has been replaced with the newer logic of SSB HV, so instead of a sweet spot workout tomorrow, I have an easy endurance day. SSB2 is totally messed up for me at the moment so maybe I manually add back workouts?
You certainly could change out tomorrow’s workout (maybe pick a sweet spot workout via TrainNow?) and then expect adaptations to follow, but the biggest takeaway here is that its okay for your plan to look different, and doesn’t mean it’s ‘broken’. These updated workouts are a good thing!
It’s a beta, this is the point you must have known this when you signed up, it’s just not going to be perfect at this stage.
Can you opt out?
Presumably you can turn it off here. I haven’t tried it or heard about anyone doing so, but that seems the place to do it.
By doing what? How do you change a plan which has already been adapted since you started it without losing the benefits of those adaptations.
Sorry if this seems an obvious thing to some.
EDIT- apologies I hadn’t been on the forum for a day or so and hadn’t read the main announcement thread.
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just posting as an example in case you don’t want to lose your current stuff. This is what my week was looking like
and this is the current week after updating the plans and having pending adaptations
Keeping an open mind, but I personally liked my trajectory that AT had me on for SSB2 and don’t really care much for these short easy endurance rides
Adaptive Training still seems to be quite insistent on dropping my levels, even though I’ve got through the last couple of weeks without marking anything as all out (or failed anything).
With that said, it’s only still insisting on threshold, so hopefully I can get it to reconsider after my next threshold session!
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Hiya Chad,
I’m after similar gains in the 1-5min range mostly for Zwift racing! When you swopped out workouts, what did you search for in order to get longer VO2s vs 30/30s for example? And did you manage them at 100% difficulty at first??
Cheers,
Greg
This was something mentioned/hinted at in the initial podcast announcing AT - that what was being suggested was “easy”, “counterintuitive” and seemingly messed with the teams’ heads.
I’d base my acceptance on how far out I was from an event - no point in changing things if you are only a few weeks away but if you’re six months away or have no planned event then accept the suggestions and see how it goes.
Part of the problem with typical ML systems is that there’s no “explanation” in the same way that a coach might say: “You are struggling with sustained over-unders so we’ll back off a bit there but give you some short VO2max intervals once a week to pep up the top end then in a month or so we’ll slowly bring back the over-unders” so you just have to trust that the ML has analysed your performances correctly.
AT also needs reasonable behaviour (not beasting yourself on every workout, etc.) and accurate feedback to be able to offer sensibly targeted workouts. Again, a coach would be able to see that you were pushing threshold into VO2max, etc. so could rein in your enthusiasm/ego.
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This was discussed earlier in the thread, but my issue with it is that the adaptive training system doesn’t really have any concept of what’s been going on with my diet / sleep / stress unless I fail a workout. I’ve just come off the back of losing 12kg of bodyweight, and now that I’m able to fuel for workouts again I know that my output is going to be considerably higher than it was. So in my (moderately unusual) case, I can be confident overriding it.
Then there’s the matter of RPE not really working out well for everyone, but that’s a much more complicated issue.
If nothing else, the levels have ended up being particularly useful for me as I know what direction to stretch myself in. Even if it’s just a matter of being able to confidently pick a slightly longer version of a workout I know I can do so I can get a little more training stimulus.