Hi everyone, I’ve got a new recap video of my last week of training using adaptive training up. If you happen to watch it and find it useful/informative I’d appreciate a thumbs up just so it gains traction for other people searching out this stuff on youtube. Also I can see a lot of people don’t watch past 30 seconds so if you can spare the only 5 mins that would be great lol
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Hmmm… i belong to those who are ok with waiting for a product to be finished before being rolled out. But now we are approaching almost two months since the announcement and so far I dont see much change: is the official release anywhere close? Or are there still so many bugs to kill off? Wasnt mid-March supposed to be the big step?
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first post of this thread as a list of known issues and are being crossed off as they work them
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They’re definitely having an issue with both unnecessary adaptations and adaptations not happening when they should, I’ve had both.
Obviously fixing those and the Wahoo thing are kind of important.
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Yeah, those two bullet points seem like potentially pretty big debugging lifts to me. I have tuned out from tracking adaptive training news until I see the “you’re in” email.
I have a hypothetical based on my workout today and curious how AT would handle it. So I had Mount Goode, 3x15 @ 95/99/97%. But I just wasn’t feeling great today. My HR was crazy high for SS/Threshold and I knew its was going to be difficult. I ended up lowering the intensity and did 3x15 @ 95%. Here’s my question. According to the planned workout, I failed. I had to decrease the intensity. But let’s say I created a custom workout that was 3x15 @ 95%, and I completed it perfectly. Would AT treat these workouts differently? Like, they’re the exact same workout profile. But would AT “penalize” me for lowering intensity?
Software development takes time…two months is not a long time.
Hey, all!
Just want to drop a note in here regarding a super helpful resource: an ‘Adaptive Training Known Issues’ page that will be continuously updated with existing and resolved issues surrounding adaptations, outside workouts, progressions, and more FAQs. Its pretty sick.
Its fairly comprehensive so far but as usual, you should definitely reach out to the team at support@trainerroad.com if anything is missing so we can document and help mitigate it as quickly as possible.
Cheers!
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That is great! Should we edit the OP at the top to include this link and replace the “Known Issue” current list shown there?
We’ll probably keep… both!!! Cause reading can be hard. HAHA. I’ll get Nathan to update the OP. Cheers!
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Also I believe you are being modest about your abilities in sweet spot and the tri success you have had.
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It would probably call it a struggle pass. 5% change isn’t enough to change the nature of the workout enough to be a total and complete fail (you didn’t cut short or bail entirely). You still managed 90/94/92% intervals of 15 mins each, and that’s definitely still in threshold intensity. It would serve you a questionnaire asking why you struggled to do it at 100%. Your answer would then be processed by AT and used for future adaptations, if any.
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Great idea, @IvyAudrain but I suggest you should title it as “Adaptive Training BETA known issues”. Otherwise some outsider wanting to score points will use it as a stick to hit TR. (They will anyway, but you see what I mean).
It can always be renamed once live.
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Quick question re plan adaptations. I took a week out last week (combination of Covid vaccination and kids destroying two nights of sleep, fun week…), then struggled with my first workout when back in the saddle. I’m about half way through SSB2.
AT correctly worked out that I needed to tone things down going forward and adjusted the plan accordingly, all the proposed adaptions made perfect sense and it worked well. The one thing it didn’t do though was ask me to repeat the week again, which if I was still editing my plan is what I would have done.
I understand why it hasn’t done that, as it’s working to a goal date and adjusting around that but it would be nifty if there was a way to prioritise the best progression if your dates can flex. Thoughts? Or have I missed a way to do that?
IME designing/developing/operating high quality, complex software is really hard. Doing it in such a manner that the end product remains pleasant and intuitive to use, exposing only the necessary tip of an iceberg of complexity, is really, really hard. That’s the route that TR chose for itself, which as a user I very much appreciate and it’s why I’m a customer.
TR seems to have some very talented people, and they’ll all be working their socks off honing this product for eventual general release. But as you say it all takes time, and rushing it is in no one’s interest - users or TR - and hence is no answer.
The way I look at these things is that the beta users in aggregate are doing some of the heavy lifting - discovering problems, spending time feeding back comments, dealing with workarounds - so that my experience when I get to use it will be a better one with fewer frustrations from outstanding issues.
Be patient folks - the world comes to those who wait 
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One thing I regularly tell my leadership team and my developers is that a 90% or even 95% solution usually takes about 20% of the time and the last 5-10% is where the difficulty lies
While not universally true this is something to keep in mind while waiting on this release
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Can i check, is this because you used the Planner, rather than simply choosing which plans to follow.
I would have done the same - repeated a week, and adpated the plans as I approached my races. That is because I did not use the planner, but simply chose plans to follow.
Planner, when I enrolled in the AT beta I basically recreated my plan from scratch using plan builder, just with a start date in the past to factor in where I was
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I am being caught by the Plan Builder because it will not allow me to schedule two 25m TTs as A races within 8 weeks of one another. I have them 6 weeks apart. Bit frustrating. I can understand why it is doing that, especially if I were scheduling 100mTTs that close together, but a 25. Ummm… So I end up having to bodge things.
Software development takes time…two months is not a long time.
Tell that to my customers!