Question on outdoor workouts & progression level. I successfully completed a long outdoor endurance workout, but the workout didn’t impact my progression level at all, unlike when I complete indoor workouts I can immediately see the impact - what gives?
Are you are using a Wahoo head unit by any chance?
There is a known bug relating to Wahoo and outdoor workouts being applied correctly in AT.
If you are not using Wahoo, then best to email support@trainerroad.com and give them further information.
Handful of rabid Xert fanboys, little more there.
This day was always coming. Even though essentials these are two different models, they will always be compared now no matter what, and Xert will suffer for it.
With the user experience and pace of development at TR, Xert could struggle even more to gain momentum.
In fairness, not everyone has the time or the inclination to listen to the podcast. It’s been years since I listened with any sort of regularity.
Really isn’t that hard to provide a quick summary of changes / updates somewhere for those that don’t.
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Totally fair. But I’ll note that they include extensive timestamps so you can skip to exactly what you want in each episode without needing to listen to the whole thing. For example, here is the timestamp from last week’s episode with the AT update. You can find these in the description or by hovering your cursor over the scrub bar.
I’ll also drop the below post from last week about future plans from TR on the subject of keeping up things up to date. So either way, they seem to be on top of the requests from this thread and others about more transparency.
Hi. Not sure if this has already been covered in this epic thread but I do my TR rides with the iOS app and I am in the AT beta, but so far I haven’t seen any evidence of any adaptation happening at all. I do see the survey after my rides. I even failed a few rides on the weekend, but I still have not seen any adaptation. Should I not see something about “adaptations pending”?
Email support@trainerroad.com your experience so they can get it added into their list of bugs. If you’re doing outdoor workouts, others (and myself) have noted these are not counting toward progressions. If they are indoors, there should be adaptations happening as you complete workouts. I found yesterday that I wasn’t receiving the Adaptations Pending button on mobile, but was seeing it on the website and sent in a bug report with some screenshots.
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It is not a suitable answer. i should not have to listen to a 2hr podcast to see the latest updates. Also as I read through these 2088 posts, TR peopel pop up and provide snippets. Surley a place where release info, (or in this case updates on a release) are listed is appropriate, so they can be read in 1 minute - not 2 hurs of listening 
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As @BCrossen mentioned above, they do timestamp the podcast. So whether you listen on YouTube or a podcast app, you shouldn’t need to listen to the full 2 hour show. That being said, I do believe that TR staff mentioned on the Beta thread that they are planning to set this up.
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I’m interested in how AT can be used without following a TR plan and doing some of the scheduling yourself, but I don’t think there’s much info to go on.
Do future workouts get assigned a difficulty only if they are scheduled for the next 24 hours? That seems to be the case for me.
And then more broadly, if you were putting together your own schedule would the idea to have most of your workouts “productive”?
To answer your second question, I don’t think you necessarily want all your workouts to be ‘productive’ because it’s always taking you past your current level. You definitely want to balance it with achievable stuff. I did week 1 of SSB1HV this past week and I had 3 productive workouts and two achievable workouts. This coming week I have 4 productive and 2 achievable. That may change as I progress, I’m not sure yet.
It could throw up a few options like recovery, maintenance and progression.
Maintenance and progression could be broken into different zones too.
Use TrainNow as I am doing it this way and working pretty good actually. I have to do TN currently as my schedule is so inconsistent with work and travel but honestly been really nice using it not sure I will schedule a plan.
I inquired about the difficulty levels showing for future workouts, and Nate said they’re working on a way to do it. The challenge from their side (my words, not theirs) is that the difficulty tags will be changing potentially after every workout, for all workouts in the future. This could becomes a point of confusion when a workout that said breakthrough yesterday becomes a stretch tomorrow or an achievable on Sunday becomes productive tomorrow and then a stretch the day after and then productive again. This constant difficulty change I would suspect would create more questions than leaving it off.
That said, if you tap on the upcoming workout, you can see the difficulty level on the workout page (at the top). It’s just not showing on the calendar page for what I assume are confusion point reasons.
EDIT: Found where Nate said they were looking to add the difficultly levels for future workouts.
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Are we suppose to see the Productive, Achievable labels yet?
Now that we have a solid batch of athletes added to the AT Closed Beta (added 200 more this afternoon) we’ve been able to amass a solid number of known issues, points of confusion, and bugs. We’re going to post known issues at the bottom of the original post, and cross them off as they have been addressed. We’ll also post in the thread so you don’t have to constantly check the original post.
We’re working on tidying things up, so expect to see this list added by EOD tomorrow. I’ll post here once that is done.
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Ahhhh I got in!
One question maybe missed it already asked. Is it possible to see historical progression levels? Where my levels were in January vs now etc?
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I got in today as well! 
I’ll be starting up the next season of the Zwift Racing League on the 6th and I’m wondering if there’s a good way to include those efforts in the Adaptive Training AI? I don’t link anything to TR (not that it sounds like it matters for this at this point anyway) so I have just used Free Ride 90 to record the effort while I warm-up/cool-down and race in Zwift (other than during the ZRL events I follow TR workouts and ride along in Zwift). However, I see that the Free Ride workouts don’t count towards any of the progression levels. I’m thinking of just loading up a long Tempo workout instead, but not sure what impact it will have. Had anyone tried something similar yet?
Awesome! Nice to see the rate of new entrants pick up a little.
Of course since I was not randomly selected, there’s a part of me that is personally offended, haha!
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As of now, you can only see your levels as they currently exist. I’ve asked for a progression chart, sort of like the current TSS chart, to be added. But it’s only an ask at this point.
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