I’ve been doing weekends outside and week days indoors. In my conversations with TR about bugs, I’ve asked if there is anything I could do to provide better testing. They’ve been very clear, “Use our product as you normally would.”
As I stated in my earlier post, this shows me they need the data from indoors and outdoors to make sure they squash bugs from all angles. If all we did was indoor rides, then they wouldn’t have the experiences from outdoors to find bugs. They’ve got to have both to make it a better experience by the time it fully releases to everyone.
And frankly the indoor experience for me hasn’t had many issues thus far (minor bugs they’ve either already fixed or are currently working on), so riding outdoors more often is probably a better call to get more experiences to potentially find more bugs so they can get squashed. And if that happense, more people get let in.
My understanding is that it was in that they are not able to process the data to ID compliance. All the laps are there with times and power and the association is set in the calendar.
I saw something about wahoo issues with displaying them, but the inability to interpret them when uploaded sounds like a major problem.
Interesting. I reckon that would be a scenario I would never follow. Probably my own problem, who knows ;-)) but I guess the dev team should acknowledge if they can’t work with a genuinely free-form outdoor recording (not related to any specific indoor workout from the library and not recorded in an arcane order of special precautions like you just laid out) it’s not really useful to a (unknown but I propose widespread) population of potential AT users.
Just sharing something strange that happened to my plan when I joined AT two days ago. I accepted all recommendations but seems like I have two days where I have 2 bike sessions next week, which is a bit too much from my current Olympic Tri Mid-volume plan. I usually just have three bike workouts per week, same as the rest of the schedule until race day. I have reported this to support, but wondering if anyone here has a similar experience.
Any chance you had rides left on the calendar form a prior plan you applied then deleted?
Sometimes, if you shift around days, they will break free from the plan and not delete even though you delete the source plan. Those might be artifacts is one possibility, and may need to be deleted manually if so.
Indeed! Before I join the beta program, I was moving around some workouts for this week, then when AT recommended some workouts, it was just added without deleting the workouts that they were suppose to replace. Makes sense, thank you .
So I accepted the adaptations and am just going with it, did the prescribed workout today (categorized it as moderate) and have new recommendations going forward
So a little longer/slightly harder tomorrow, but the following week all appear to be slightly easier/gradual progressions
I did have an endurance rating of 7.8 but that’s gone down to 6.2 two weeks after my 7.8 rated rides. Not sure if endurance decays that quickly in 2 weeks but not concerned about that at all
Going forward what is the best way to manage outdoor workouts?
I did mount Hayes outdoors today, it was 90mins, but as it was the weekend I then did another hour just riding/endurance. It’s all recorded as one ride. So with AT coming is it better to:
end the ride when the workout is complete, and then record a separate unstructured ride.
Add something like petit outdoors to may calendar and do to separate workouts.
Just keep going as it, once the workout is complete it doesn’t make a difference?
Or for the future 4. Hit lap button to show you have moved on from the cooldown section and AT takes this as a signal it needs to consider the next lap data.
I did Winchell (VO2Max 7.3) outdoors today using a Wahoo head unit and can confirm the suspicion that it isn’t working as intended with outdoor workouts (i.e. it isn’t counting towards progression). Here is the workout showing it associated on the mobile app.
Also notable is that on the website, the workout page does not show this workout associated with any TR outdoor workout. Perhaps this is part of the problem that I’m experiencing?
Below is my recent workouts chart on the web app (this chart does not appear to be anywhere within the mobile app, which is kind of a bummer). As you can see, there is no indication of the workout being a success or not, nor is there an indication of what kind of workout it is or how it relates to my current levels. The indoor ones do show this information.
Also interesting is how it does display the workout type on Current Week, but does not show anything in that Recent Workouts section as noted in the screenshot above. You can see today’s workout is indeed labeled VO2Max 7.3 here, but for some reason that’s not making it to the Recent Workouts section.
And here is my progression chart so you can see that the VO2Max (Winchell is VO2Max 7.3, so you’d suspect it to bump up my level in this chart) is still listed as 5.2, which appears to be using my progression based on Brasted +1 on Thursday.
I would concur. Catching up on the thread today was the first I read that the the lack of AT functionality for outdoor TR workouts were specific to those with a wahoo head unit. I too, am using a wahoo head unit.
I’ve completed two outdoor workouts, observed no change in progression levels; noted the lack of Outcome and Progression levels under recent activity for the outdoor workouts … and just assumed it was across the board.
I don’t have a Garmin to compare, but based on comments from @mcneese.chad and another user further up, it would appear that the feature is working for some and not others. Colin mentioning that it is a problem with Wahoo head units was the first I heard it too.
