I agree with the private thread for us beta users. There would be less clutter, more opportunity for users to compare notes/discuss, allow the TR team to focus on one thread. and most importantly allow the TR team to control the message a little better for the general user base.
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Plan Builder would disagree. If you tell it you have 10+ hours to train and that youāve been doing structured intervals for āmultiple yearsā you will be given High Volume SSB. This sort of cyclist is not that unusual.
Edit: mentioning this here as it makes it hard to use AT with Plan Builder, for me at least.
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Hi all, so I made a youtube video of my current experience with adaptive training with my high volume SSB plan (I just finished week 1) so it should hopefully be a weekly series because the plan literally does adapt from workout to workout. Iām not really prepared to share publicly just yet, so if youāre interested message me privately and Iāll give you the link
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I am pretty excited to start the AT Beta this week! I am starting a new plan (SSB 1 MV) since the events that I am targeting donāt hit until August. Looking ahead, I need a bit of scheduling advice. I will be racing Zwift Racing League on Tuesdayās starting on 4/6 through the next several weeks. Basically those races are around an hour and primarily threshold. I am wondering what workout I would swap it for - my threshold session or my hardest sweet spot session? Also, should I associate it or leave it unassociated? Once AT starts accounting for outdoor rides this is probably an easier call, but until thenā¦
Any feedback is appreciated 
Swap the race for a workout of a similar effort (this is a best practice regardless of AT or not) but donāt associate it with a TR workout as per the below.
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Thanks. My initial thought was to swap it for the threshold workout since it is closest to the race effort, but it looks like the plan only has 1 threshold workout per week. Since it isnāt including outdoor rides, I think AT wouldnāt have any basis for adapting my threshold capability without me completing that workout. On the other hand, there are multiple sweet spot workouts. To your point, I probably should focus first on what is the best plan decision rather than playing to how AT will react
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Question on outdoor workouts & progression level. I successfully completed a long outdoor endurance workout, but the workout didnāt impact my progression level at all, unlike when I complete indoor workouts I can immediately see the impact - what gives?
Are you are using a Wahoo head unit by any chance?
There is a known bug relating to Wahoo and outdoor workouts being applied correctly in AT.
If you are not using Wahoo, then best to email support@trainerroad.com and give them further information.
Handful of rabid Xert fanboys, little more there.
This day was always coming. Even though essentials these are two different models, they will always be compared now no matter what, and Xert will suffer for it.
With the user experience and pace of development at TR, Xert could struggle even more to gain momentum.
In fairness, not everyone has the time or the inclination to listen to the podcast. Itās been years since I listened with any sort of regularity.
Really isnāt that hard to provide a quick summary of changes / updates somewhere for those that donāt.
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Totally fair. But Iāll note that they include extensive timestamps so you can skip to exactly what you want in each episode without needing to listen to the whole thing. For example, here is the timestamp from last weekās episode with the AT update. You can find these in the description or by hovering your cursor over the scrub bar.
Iāll also drop the below post from last week about future plans from TR on the subject of keeping up things up to date. So either way, they seem to be on top of the requests from this thread and others about more transparency.
Hi. Not sure if this has already been covered in this epic thread but I do my TR rides with the iOS app and I am in the AT beta, but so far I havenāt seen any evidence of any adaptation happening at all. I do see the survey after my rides. I even failed a few rides on the weekend, but I still have not seen any adaptation. Should I not see something about āadaptations pendingā?
Email support@trainerroad.com your experience so they can get it added into their list of bugs. If youāre doing outdoor workouts, others (and myself) have noted these are not counting toward progressions. If they are indoors, there should be adaptations happening as you complete workouts. I found yesterday that I wasnāt receiving the Adaptations Pending button on mobile, but was seeing it on the website and sent in a bug report with some screenshots.
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It is not a suitable answer. i should not have to listen to a 2hr podcast to see the latest updates. Also as I read through these 2088 posts, TR peopel pop up and provide snippets. Surley a place where release info, (or in this case updates on a release) are listed is appropriate, so they can be read in 1 minute - not 2 hurs of listening 
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As @BCrossen mentioned above, they do timestamp the podcast. So whether you listen on YouTube or a podcast app, you shouldnāt need to listen to the full 2 hour show. That being said, I do believe that TR staff mentioned on the Beta thread that they are planning to set this up.
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Iām interested in how AT can be used without following a TR plan and doing some of the scheduling yourself, but I donāt think thereās much info to go on.
Do future workouts get assigned a difficulty only if they are scheduled for the next 24 hours? That seems to be the case for me.
And then more broadly, if you were putting together your own schedule would the idea to have most of your workouts āproductiveā?
To answer your second question, I donāt think you necessarily want all your workouts to be āproductiveā because itās always taking you past your current level. You definitely want to balance it with achievable stuff. I did week 1 of SSB1HV this past week and I had 3 productive workouts and two achievable workouts. This coming week I have 4 productive and 2 achievable. That may change as I progress, Iām not sure yet.
It could throw up a few options like recovery, maintenance and progression.
Maintenance and progression could be broken into different zones too.
Use TrainNow as I am doing it this way and working pretty good actually. I have to do TN currently as my schedule is so inconsistent with work and travel but honestly been really nice using it not sure I will schedule a plan.
I inquired about the difficulty levels showing for future workouts, and Nate said theyāre working on a way to do it. The challenge from their side (my words, not theirs) is that the difficulty tags will be changing potentially after every workout, for all workouts in the future. This could becomes a point of confusion when a workout that said breakthrough yesterday becomes a stretch tomorrow or an achievable on Sunday becomes productive tomorrow and then a stretch the day after and then productive again. This constant difficulty change I would suspect would create more questions than leaving it off.
That said, if you tap on the upcoming workout, you can see the difficulty level on the workout page (at the top). Itās just not showing on the calendar page for what I assume are confusion point reasons.
EDIT: Found where Nate said they were looking to add the difficultly levels for future workouts.
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