There have been rumors, not-so-subtle hints, and plenty of feature requests over the years touching on different aspects of what we’ve been building here at TrainerRoad. Today, we’re thrilled to finally announce Adaptive Training! This is an entirely new foundation of TrainerRoad that uses machine learning, science-based coaching principles, and our unprecedented data set to give you the right workout, every time. Adaptive Training does this all through taking your performance, life, and goals into account, intelligently adjusting your training to help you get faster. Adaptive Training is aimed at solving problems like: Having an easier time with one training zone compared to another Feeling like the Ramp Test doesn’t work for you Feeling like you just aren’t good at a particular training zone Missing workouts and wondering what to do next, whether it’s just a few workouts or multiple weeks of training We’re talking about this in detail on our podcast now if you want to check it out! [Announcing Adaptive Training: The Right Workout. Every Time. – Ask a Cycling Coach 298] Big Update, Adaptive Training is now out of beta and fully available to every TrainerRoad athlete. When you log in, you’ll see a notification that Adaptive Training is enabled for your account. If From here on out, this thread will act as a landing page for athletes to receive Adaptive Training updates from the TrainerRoad team and share experiences and helpful tips. But we don’t want it to serve as a place for athletes to post general questions or how-to’s, bug reporting, or support team help. The forum doesn’t have a great infrastructure for athletes to search for questions and solutions that apply to them, so posing FAQs and getting help on the thread can make it messy and hard for everyone to follow—as we saw in the previous threads of over 7,000+ posts! Additionally, relevant issues/bugs/solutions are constantly changing within Adaptive Training, and TR support has the best and most up-to-date information and help. If you have questions or need a second look at any Adaptive Training topics like Progression Levels, Surveys, or pending adaptations, please check out our recently updated Adaptive Training Help Guide. Let support@trainerroad.com know if you have any questions or need a second look at anything; otherwise, feel free to post helpful tips and experiences below, and follow along for updates from the TrainerRoad team!

I think its awesome that you come on the forum and post feedback to all of our questions. Chapeau sir. @Nate_Pearson

[image] Skilaxin1088: I could see a direct correlation with TRs system, if the vast majority of data fed in is from men who may have different power profiles, recovery rates, etc, and therefore different outcomes from a given set of inputs than women. I could see this being mitigated by having completely separate data sets for men and women. it would me a much smaller data set from women, but I suspect that would be better than prescribing women plans based on a predominantly male data set. Hopefully this is something they have taken into account, as mentioned they have made an effort to cater to women specifically and I would imagine they know a lot more about machine learning than me… Gender is a feature on the ML model. ML will detect if there’s relevant difference between male/female. And the progression system already takes this into account. If you’re better/worse at anaerobic efforts we’ll find that out and adapt. So it’s more fine grain than just gender; it’s individual to you.

[image] RobClapham: But I am beginning to get a little bored with doing the same workouts and feel like, even though my FTP has gone up each time, the early progression V02 max workouts (30 secs, 60 secs) are too easy and I might be under-challenging myself early on) I wonder what AT will make of this. I know I could throw in a build to spice things up, but I’m pretty sure I heard @Nate_Pearson say in a podcast, if the gains keep coming keep repeating the base? Will AT start throwing in harder workout variants each time I repeat a SSBMV2 block, knowing that I am getting very good at doing these types of workouts and could do with something to challenge me more? Can’t wait to find out. If you’re marking the workouts with a low RPE and they are supposed to be a high RPE you will progress faster. You can also use Workout Alternatives and try a “stretch” workout. That will also progress you more quickly.

[image] 3dflyer87: I do ~50% of my TR training with my Stages power meter on rollers (or outdoors) and ~50% on my Wahoo Kickr. They have a known 6% offset to one-another (Kickr reads ~6% higher). Will AT attach your different specific sensors to different workouts to be able account for these offsets? This definitely becomes important with workouts like over/unders. Thanks! No, not right now. We’d need to record differences in different power meters and have someone type them in or something like that.

[image] Chester_Grimpeur: So say I’m doing a plan and my weds workout is 1 hour but I have 90 mins on that day. Can I just use TrainNow and select a 90 min workout and then my plan will adapt? Correct. Or you can use Workout Alternatives and select a 90 minute workout. Workout Alternatives gives you a bit more fine grain control. It shows you 90 minute workouts at the same level and workout profile. We think Workout Alternatives is the better option in this scenario.

[image] Chester_Grimpeur: I think the point that hasn’t been answered is if this is going to be days, weeks, months, years! Totally appreciate that you can’t give guarantees, but do you expect the majority of people to have access in days, weeks, months etc? At the moment people know “how” you are going to roll it out… but not “when”. Next people will probably get in this week depending on the PR status of the one above. New features will come to EVERYONE in weeks, not months. Of course, I could get burned by this statement if we have a very bad bug.

[image] triggerdog: Thanks so much for the response Nate! Fascinated to see how it’s going to work and can’t wait. Follow up question. How does AT response to you straight up manually deleting workouts from a plan. Would it try to replace it for you? And would it consider them as ‘failed’ rides if you just don’t do them? Deleted workouts would be considered like time off or a skipped workout. So the next week would most likely get a bit easier.

[image] pats: Hi @Nate_Pearson. I had a recent ramp test where I unfortunately lost power connection at the end. Not sure how much longer I would have been able to hold on but at that point 30sec-1min makes a huge difference I did not accept the new suggested ftp, but will I be able to “uncheck” or delete workouts like this so that it’s not “calculated” towards other workouts in the adaptive training? Ty If it’s a ramp test it won’t have any impact. If you “struggle/fail” in a workout due to a device issue there’s a survey option to say you had a device issue. That makes our ML ignore it.

Yesterday I had Kaiser+2 planned but subbed it for Kaiser-1, how would AT deal with that? I.e. still doing a workout in the same energy zone as that planned but either easier, as in this case, or harder?

[image] zombo: Sorry if already answered, but for the post-workout RPE survey… in the scenario that we turn down the workout because it was far too difficult and made it do-able what should the grade be? Based on what we turned it down to, or based on the fact that we had to turn it down so that would put it in the “very hard/all out” category? What if we completely turn down a z5 ride to z2 making it essentially easy, is the right answer here to say it was an easy workout? Based on what you actually did. So in the Z5 to Z2 it would be an “easy” workout.

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Nate_Pearson March 3, 2021, 6:53pm 1479

Next people will probably get in this week depending on the PR status of the one above.

New features will come to EVERYONE in weeks, not months.

Of course, I could get burned by this statement if we have a very bad bug.

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