Garmin Training Status

I stop listening to Garmin…

Whatever they are doing, is not working.

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well.
The “pros” at garmin think that hitting my target pace at higher HR is bad.
BUT, they dont take into consideration if i had a swim before (they count my swim as i did nothing), OR if the outside temperature is 78 and 97% humidity with 15 mph winds.

:man_shrugging:

This is eerily correct. Ok today was easy and anyone could have guessed threshold but seriously they nailed this feature on my 530 using a PM/HRM.

This is a truly awesome ride write-up.

Not sure about your Training Status, but your Literary Status is definitely Productive.

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Actually, the Edge x30, x45 and Fenix 6 series all do take into account (forecast) weather conditions. Earlier generations don’t.

Obviously the Edge doesn’t know about the swim, and even the watch is viewing these as separate activities - I’m not sure about what happens if you use the multisport option on a watch.

I think the Forerunner 945 does have that. I still dont trust it.

Ive been unproductive all week.
Even thou im hitting my targets.

Yay for florida summer.
This morning was 77 and 94% humidity.
I was drench 5 minutes into run.

Welcome to the south experience.

I used to live in Northern VA (about 45 min from DC).
Summer can get bad an humid. But is only maybe 1 or 2 months and not every day.

here is every day for at least 6 months.
It just started and it will not get better until at least November, if we are lucky

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I just started looking at the FirstBeat metrics on my Edge 530.

Is it possible to use any of this for effective training? I’ve googled and I don’t see any good articles on this.

Do these metrics help one choose a workout to shore up what they think you should train? I can’t find anything like this.

AFAICT, if you do MAF or polarized training it will constantly tell you that your anaerobic or high aerobic training is deficient and that your training is “UNPRODUCTIVE”. I kind of find it annoying that my head unit tells me every day that what I’m doing is unproductive!

If I followed the indications I’d probably have to do more sweet spot and above threshold work to get the indicators in the optimal zone.

I know this Garmin FirstBeat stuff is probably not super helpful but it would be cool if such a thing existed. Maybe Xert is the closest right now?

If you have a structured training program eg. TrainerRoad, then follow it, rather than trying to keep the LA, HA or AN recommendations in the green.

Those recommendations probably represent a healthy balance of different aspects of fitness, rather than a progressive training cycle designed to improve performace.

I agree. It just seems strange that that are no technical white papers or videos or anything. The videos Garmin has on youtube are so lightweight.

I’m guessing that Garmin paid millions for FirstBeat Analytics. Did they just buy some window dressing for their watches so that not-so-serious recreational runners and cyclists would have something pretty to look at?

Hmmm…I don’t think any company would do anything like this! /s

I don’t think it is accurate enough or knows enough about what your goals are to give you an actual recommendation about your training. But what I think it might be decent for is to take the guy who just goes out and runs a hard 5k every other day and help him to see that maybe he should mix in some longer, slower runs or maybe some shorter VO2 workouts. Or help take the recreational cyclists who just does his normal loop 4 times a week and sometimes go hard that there might be areas of his physiology that he is not hitting. This realization might lead these athletes to go in search of more structured training. I’m sure Garmin has done some sort of cost/benefit to show that by pushing recreational athletes to be more serious then they are more likely to buy the more expensive products and more of them (Vector PM pedals, varias, etc).