And what if I told you coaches will even modify a workout… during the workout! ![]()
I think that’s even been proposed for TR in the new features thread! I think I would still classify that as “new information received” in most cases.
It seems like adaptive training is looking at your upcoming workout being x amount of time from your last workout. It’s not saying this is your Thursday workout. It’s saying this is your workout 47 hours from your last workout, this is 56 hours from your last workout etc.
Whoever said it in here but it does seem every time you open the app it’s ready to generate a workout now recommendation which isn’t a bad thing.
For those of you getting what seems like excessive amounts of adaptations, how long has that been going on? ![]()
Hey Eddie I’ve not used a training plan for a while but there were a lot of adaptions when I did even a few months back. And strange adaptions too that didnt always seem to make sense, like making things easier PLs when it just didnt seem necessary. It was part of the reason I stopped using the plans, I was never really sure whether I was coming or going!
Possibly related - mine is checking every time you open the calendar or home page in both android and win apps. Don’t often get adaptions but it’s a lot of checks.
It’s also moved this rest week Z2s in the 2.0 range to 3.x which is only a bit bellow my current level. I used an alternative to head back to a rest range. It then adapted today’s (which I moved to tomorrow as my front has a flat) back up to 3.3.
Months? There’s a previous thread about it, but sadly I don’t really remember when it started. I feel like it was close to when Zwift integration was released, because I felt somewhat coerced into clicking the “always accept adaptations” checkbox at the time. I always accept adaptations, so I kind of grumbled to myself and moved on with my life.
I think this might be a change in philosophy. I just had to do James during my recovery week. A couple years ago I never would have gotten something that hard during a recovery week.
Months. At least it’s got the right level when it’s time to load the workout. I think I get more than most because I often do two workouts per day. I have V02 scheduled for Thursday. Pretty much every time I do a workout, that workout adapts. It also usually adapts when one day turns over to the next. Today my 7.0 V02 adapted to a different 7.0 V02. I don’t mind this because I like trying new workouts to keep things interesting. Going for a TR workout library bingo blackout, ha!
I had James 3 days in a row in my calendar for this (deload) week. I changed one of them yesterday to Baird+1 and AI has now changed the 3rd James to something else.
We’re working on getting recovery weeks cleaned up. Sorry for the trouble! ![]()
For this week I presume I/we should use alt workouts to get the appropriate recovery efforts?
I wish there was an option for that.
I already known the workout type that’s coming and just look at the future workouts as lies that will change anyway.
I’m more surprised the few workouts that don’t change.
I think TR changed something on there end, as of late most of my workout haven been changing when I’m asleep, lets say sometime after 12am.
That seems like it would certainly cause adaptations. Is it possible to extend the warmup in Zwift like in the app? Or maybe not start the workout until a lap or other button is pressed similar to an outdoor workout?
You can also turn it off. I find it annoying myself. Same as you, when following the plan not missing workouts, it’s still adapting. Makes no sense.
For the first time in ages I got no adaptations after last nights workout and not even today after a walk at lunchtime. I’m scared I’m missing out ![]()
Oddly, I went off the rails and haven’t logged a training ride in multiple days. No TR adaptations today. Who knows, it’s one place where I expect one.
I do know this. I’ve done a fair amount of software testing in my career. Software always has bugs. AI is just one way that how things work vs how they were intended to work is obfuscated. With no way to verify the proper result, you can make all sorts of assumptions but you can never really know. As long as TR keeps working for me I’m leaving the auto accept on and riding my bike. Eddie’s post, while appreciated, it’s exactly what I mean. TR is “cleaning up” recovery weeks? Lemmy guess, too many unnecessary adaptations?
Recovery weeks should have workouts more aligned with recovery again.
If anyone is getting endurance workouts that they feel are too hard during recovery weeks, let me know!
A while ago TR adjusted things to allow larger PL jumps if the ai thinks you are capable of it. Stops you having to do many workouts to get to a level appropriate for you.
I would try it and see what happens? You might surprise yourself.
This thread has a few responses from TR on larger PL jumps. I think there are some other posts elsewhere as well that talk about similar jumps.
eta: I can’t speak to why it might choose this in your case however, someone from TR would have to take a look.