I think the adaptations have been appropriate in my case in the respect that they are of proper intensity and duration for the portion of the training cycle and phase they are in. I haven’t failed a workout this season, and I feel I’m on track for my next race.
On the other hand I think something has been lost here. I pay for TR for it to build a plan and adjust accordingly. Aligned with the “faster cyclist” thing. Random changes when no additional data or input is possible deflates my confidence. I start to wonder if I’m leaving things on the table with my training time. And if I am maybe. I’d be better off just going for a ride. When/if the automatically accept adaptations setting starts working for me I’m just going to ride and ignore the AI. I’m just a busy mid-pack amateur anyway, it’s not like it really matters. Click less buttons, good.
What exactly is it adapting to? If I do all the workouts in ERG mode as prescribed, how does it know if I could have pushed harder, or if they were too hard? Is it only based on my subjective rating of how a workout felt? Is there’s an expectation built into the plan that I should fail some workouts, and if I fail those as expected, then there would be no adaptations? If I don’t fail those then it jacks up the difficulty, and if I fail more it reduces the difficulty?
Yes it’s using your feedback. It’s also weighing your rides not done in TR for fatigue stuff like that. Really not sure what the problem with a plan trying to tailor itself to you is.
Actually, that’s one of the things I’m paying TR for, adaptive training. The issue is not knowing how or why it’s doing what it’s doing. It continuously makes a lot of little tweaks, but how and why?
Also, the last time I corresponded with TR wrt to outdoor rides, they said the plan does not adapt/change base on any outdoor rides unless they are plan prescribed workouts done outdoors, which I find somewhat disappointing. Ideally, the plan would take in the totality of activities and adapt accordingly.
Simple. Because no outside rides, no additional workouts (no strength), no survey updates, no missed scheduled rides have occured. Lots of posts stating that my survey results, outside rides, or some other data input is causing this. There are no inputs. I get adaptations just by opening TR.
TrainerRoad may also be continuously refining the machine learning model driving the adaptations, and the model itself is constantly being fed with the data from other people completing their own workouts, which can change the output even though there are no inputs on your end.
Yeah, that’s what I was going to suggest. Perhaps it sets a workout an assumes you’ll do in the a.m., but you go to start it later in the day = more presumed recovery since last workout, and this will also prompt a change for tomorrow’s workout assuming less recovery going into it.
Face it, TR isn’t going to tell you how their formula works or exactly what all factors it is accounting for, but one little deviation from the assumed plan outcome (it’s making assumptions about many/most of those factors, because it has to in order to set the plan ahead of time) could have a ripple effect through many of those factors. Maybe it’s too much shifting of workouts for too little difference, but if it bugs you so much, you’d clearly be better off checking that box and letting it do it’s thing until you see something significantly out of whack.
Maybe I am weird, but I like to see Adaptations pop up and get a little disappointed when it says there are none.
I recently re-joined TR and noticed I got a lot of Adaptations in the first weeks. I get much less now.
I also noticed that changes sometimes occurred after no direct input from myself. I concluded that it might be a result of changes made to the TR code / model.
I do not have the “Automatically Accept Adaptations” box checked and occasionally I override the suggested change.
Last I checked, RLGL doesn’t cause the plan to adapt. It’s separate from the plan and it’s up to the individual to modify their plan based on RLGL indications, if they chose to.
Yes it does, it changes rides on yellow days to endurance rides if they are SS, threshold, VO2.
This is the reason I have the auto accept set to “No” I would have missed something like 75% of my VO2, threshold sessions if I had it set to yes. Note even though I have declined the yellow day switches to endurance Ive have completed every session.
Though, strangely after today’s workout I got nada, after subbing the scheduled workout for today (Z2 L4.7: Hinch, for a custom Z2 L4.6 workout: 3h45’ @ 60%). I was under the impression that it was performance-vs-fatige-based rather than just pass-or-fail on the workout.
Repeated adaptations can be a problem for those who do workouts outside & need to find a good fit between interval structure & the available road system. When I visit my parents who live near a stretch of road closed to traffic that’s good for sweetspot up to six minutes long, any of the Garrowby series up to PL 6.4 will be fine. If it ever tried to adapt to the Antelope series, I’d have to refuse. Otherwise it’ll become a case of “oh , where am I going to bash out this one now?”
Guilty. 
, where am I going to bash out this one now?”
