This weekend dynamic endurance has me doing a 2:45 Endurance ride at 0.55IF called Malecoste. It had me doing this EXACT workout for the last two weekends as well. As you can see from my plan the following 3 weekends it also has me doing the same workout. This doesn’t seem very dynamic to me. What gives? Is anyone elses just getting the same workout week after week?
I’m training for the Mallorca 312 in April so I would have expected the weekend rides to maybe ramp up a little.
You’ve got a recovery week in there so that’s probably part of it.
It looks like your volume ramps up substantially in March/April before your event when you would expect to have your long rides and absorb that volume
Hey @Eightball 
The workouts may change as you get closer to them too. But as @Elgro mentioned, you do have a Recovery Week on the 23rd.
As far as how Dynamic Endurance works, depending on how your training is going it may or may not ramp you up on time so it doesn’t disrupt the rest of your training.
More info here:
Let’s see how the next few week go and let me know if you have further concerns!
Cheers, I will keep an eye on it. Just seems strange that its the exact same workout every week.
Here is this weeks training. I decided to do my 90 minute threshold workout outside today. With my ride to and from the area I wanted to do the intervals it ended up being 2 hours 45. This triggered a yellow day. I’m suprised it kept my 2:45 endurance ride exactly the same on a yellow day. Previously I have noticed that it would reduce the duration. The ai seems fixated on me doing Malecoste 
It really does! haha I think this may be due to the parameters the system is receiving (2:45 mins + Endurance), because I am seeing on the backend that on the 22nd the best matched workout is in fact Malecoste again, and second in line is Gulch (which you are getting a few weeks down).
We are, however, aware that the system sometimes will keep recommending a specific workout, that is in fact the best match but this is not the best experience. We’ve taken note of it. 
Good to know. Generally my plan is to do these longer rides outside anyway when it’s not raining (it always seems to rains here 
) so all I really want from the ai is a rough wattage guide so I don’t end up overcooking it.
I had some issues initially in setting up my Sunday ride to be dynamic and/or getting the length to be right. Not exactly sure what my issue was or how I got around it… I think it was me changing workouts from endurance 90min to dynamic myself (setting each one dynamic with a different hour limit) depending on my home life plans/restrictions and my limit mentally for indoor training time.
Eventually I think I setup the actual Training Plan to include a dynamic sunday endurance ride, then it worked properly.
Assuming you have selected up to a cap of hours that is higher then 2:45? kind of a duh, but worth looking. Also I notice those are somewhat recovery ride efforts (mine are all at .65-70 IF now up to 3.5hr), due to our differing TR plans (mine is with run/bike and just 3 rides a week) so it really is going full send on the Dynamic. Where your’s is really prioritizing your hard three workouts and arguably “ignoring the endurance ride so you are ready for Tuesday after an already tough full week”. Which seems it wants to really prevent you from going into the Yellow/Red on Monday, right before Tuedsay WO.
Personally before recovery week on the 22nd, I would try to get in a good long 3-3.3hr effort, knowing recovery wk on way. April isn’t that far away, and always seems to take a few rides of a distance to start taping into the full benefits of that effort.
EDIT: Looking at date of ride… youi won’t do longest ride the weekend before or on your 1st march recovery week. So leaves 6 (7 if you cound the Feb22nd) weekends to buildup a significant long ride. Not that you need to ride super long to be able to ride super long… its about the other work/FTP/etc. But long rides with good fueling is very beneficial. MIGHT be best to tack on an .5-1hr to your Saturday ride after WO, to push the TSS further away from Tuesdays.
Def set to 5 hours max. Also I did multiple back to back 3-5 hour rides about a month ago whilst I was in Gran Canaria for a week. I do plan on increasing the long rides but also the weather is horrible here in the UK at the moment (cold and wet). Praying for some dry weather
I think you are probably right about it trying to protect my hard rides.
@Caro.Gomez-Villafane I think I may have figured out part of what was going on.
My original TrainerRoad plan (created under the older model) had two A races. With the new system only allowing one A race per plan, I deleted that plan and rebuilt it as two separate plans. I suspect having two A races may have been causing some unexpected behavior with Dynamic Endurance.
That said, I’ve found a repeatable issue with Dynamic Endurance during recovery weeks.
Steps to reproduce:
Build a plan.
Set the Sunday long ride to a fixed duration (e.g., 5 hours).
Switch that ride to Dynamic Endurance.
What happens:
Every recovery week schedules a 5-hour ride on Sunday.
If I instead set the ride to 2:45 fixed and then switch to Dynamic, recovery week Sundays become 2:45.
It appears to retain whatever value was originally set as fixed — but only during recovery weeks.
Before I split my training plans into two separate plans, I believe this behavior was happening during every training week, which is why I was consistently getting 2:45 long rides.
For regular (non-recovery) weeks, Dynamic Endurance now seems to function normally — although it’s assigning lower volume than I would have expected. Especially given that I am training for the Mallorca 312 which will be ~11 hours.
For context, my Sunday rides are set as TrainerRoad outdoor workouts.
It seems like the system is using the previously selected fixed duration as the Sunday long ride during recovery weeks instead of applying Dynamic Endurance logic.
I’m definitely experiencing this across the past 2 blocks. I completed Antelope +5 on 1/28 then Yarabough on 2/4. My workout on 2/11 was supposed to be yarabough again but i changed it for Garrowby +8. I had 0 FTP change moving into my build block on 2/23 and was given Antelope +5 again on 2/25.
From a User experience perspective it gets a bit boring to do the exact same workout i did 4 weeks ago. Infusing some variability in the recommendation engine would be a win the system gets “stuck” on recommending the same workout. Variability keeps me excited and looking forward to a workout rather than seeing the same thing which i successfully completed just weeks ago.
Feel free to look at my calendar and my data on the back end for more context.
Hey @Eightball! Sorry I wam just getting back to this…
So in simple words, the Dynamic Endurance seems to have a memory bug? It forgets to be “dynamic” during recovery weeks and falls back to whatever number you had set it to?
Then as far as having 2 A Events, you probably stand correct as the new logic only allows one per plan
Yes, that’s what’s happening. If I were to go into my plan and switch the Sunday long ride to 5 hours fixed and then switch it back to dynamic it will give me 5 hours as the ride duration during the recovery weeks even though it should be dynamic. The ride on the recovery week should be shorter!
Something funky is going on. It’s a very much repeatable bug as well. I can do it with whatever duration and that’s what I will get for all my recovery weeks.
@Eightball I was off the past week, but just wanted to let you know that we’ve created a bug report for this for fixing!
