I’m not sure how I’d actually feel that - especially if I’m not riding a used bike side-by-side with a new bike that has an identical setup. I mean, Chris Froome didn’t even feel that his bike fit was off by 3cm according to his own claims Not so marginal losses: Chris Froome reveals recent bike set-up was “centimetres” apart from Team Sky days due to “oversight” | road.cc so how would we mere mortals feel anything as invisible as stiffness?
I don’t know if I would feel a difference riding the bike, honestly. But composite fatigue is a real thing and the differences are measurable, which is more than you can say for a lot of performance claims in the bike world.
As far as the Froome thing, I don’t know, man. I am a bit of princess and the pea with my bike measurements. My neck definitely feels when my stem is 10 mm too long. And one time I swapped pedals and couldn’t figure out why my saddle felt too low. Answer: 3mm more stack.
Saw all these new posts and was hoping to find some great deals. And instead another Zone 2 thread. 
LMAO - what can I say, had to say it.
In the past, they did sell bikes with scratches, etc., and it was documented.
I wouldn’t buy a pro’s used bike for any price, but that’s me.
On the stiffness thing, I once had a pro tell me the Cannondales they rode were painfully stiff and jittery. That was not this year though, so I have no idea if it influenced this specific bike choice.
Thanks. I wondered how I could do that last year and ended up renewing at full price.
The Specialized pro (professional, not the model) bikes are said to be a completely different build than the consumer bikes, with allegedly twice the amount of carbon plies in the headtube area.
Maybe Cannondale does something similar, and a year of riding is still better than the stuff we can buy?
The probably have to do that so they don’t get the dreaded carbon fatigue within the season.
It’s a decent deal, but the best TP discount code is the British Cycling one. It’s 40% off. Or was when I worked there.
BTD has the Garmin Varia for $150 today!
REI and other channels have started their holiday sales.
Quick search finds Tacx Neo 2T for $899 and Wahoo Kick Core for $479.
Various Garmin watches are on sale too
Even better! Thanks!
That’s a nice deal on the Neo.
But the kickr core at 479$ i am not sure about. It’s normally at 600$ and comes with 1 yr of Zwift membership. I don’t see anywhere if the zwift membership is included at that price. If not, that’s no deal.
A Kick Core Plus Zwift combo retails normally for $699, not $599
Color me surprised Zwift is giving out free anything without the Hub.
42% off of everything and free shipping over $55.
My bad then. Still not tht big of a sale. Zwift membership is $180 per year. So 50$ savings.
Are the quality control of kicker cores resolved now?
Core deal is tempting. I bought myself and the wife Elite Direto XRs a few months ago on an insane deal when a distributor was closing them out, but man, I CANNOT get this thing to work in erg! It’s so annoying. It’s quiet and smooth, and freeriding on Zwift is great, but Erg feels 50% harder than my old 2016 Kickr. I’ve done the updates, tried various gear combos, focused on being smooth and consistent, but it doesn’t work. My Kickr just works, and always has.