Dry Scooping, its a new one on me! I might have a banana or a cup of coffee before a workout but:
Doctors alerted to dangerous dry scooping workout trend - BBC News
total muppets⌠never underestimate the stupidity of peopleâŚ
And accidentally inhaling the powder into the lungs could cause choking or an infection or pneumonia, say the researchers.
I think they mean âaccidentallyâ
Weeelllll, if this cuts down on the number of workout bros, maybe it isnât all bad
For those people who take everything on the internet literally, this was meant sarcastically
I donât understand this article. Why is it focused on using it without water? If it contains 5 cups of coffee in a serving, why is that only bad for you if you take it dry? What am I missing?
It focuses on folks taking it without water because thatâs the dangerous new trend that there specifically is a problem with thatâs extra bad. That much coffee equivalent is a bad idea diluted but un diluted âdry scoopingâ is a particularly bad idea and the article spells out the problems attached to it.
This is far from a new trend. Itâs definitely been a think for at least 10 years. And Iâm only 26 so Iâm sure itâs been going on longer.
Most people I knew that did it would get a mouthful of water, dump the powder in, swish it around, then swallow it and rinse with water. It was just laziness so they didnât dirt a blender bottle or cup.
But lots of those preworkout scoops are somewhere between a teaspoon and a tablespoon so itâs not a ton of powder in the first place.
Hmm. Iâve read it twice now and still donât see anything about why using it dry is worse than with water.
I just want to point out that one scoop of the pre-workout in question has 250mg of caffeine. Not that I would rec slamming 250mg of caffeine but just about everybody on this forum has done that without having a heart attack.
Now, later on, the âdry slammerâ that had a heart attack went to work. While in a stripper locker room she started to experience symptoms of a heart attack & was taken to the hospital. I would submit that this might not be the whole story & there are a NUMBER of exogenous compounds (which might be commonly found in a stripper locker room) that can contribute to heart attacks.
So I agree with the moral of the story: donât take a lot of a caffeine. However, I donât believe the story.
In the early 2000âs there was a diet pill that caused a bunch of heart attacks. It was basically just a shit ton of caffeine. I used it to help me lose weight at the time (I was 190, needed to be below 180, Iâm now âoverweightâ at 145).
Big shocker, but at the time people were abusing those pills; intentional taking too much, not drinking fluids, and/or doing a strenuous workout at the same time. I had nearly no side effects when using it, ad per instructed.
or just in a regular gym. Ephedrine is legal where I live and many of the people at my gym use it like one would a cup of coffee before a workout, commonly along with a preworkout. Might be some of those âfat burnerâ supplements in the mix as well- theyâre sort of regarded as âsepearate thingsâ without considering dosage of each or the total amount of caffeine and other stimulants. Iâm fairly sure one of the posters on the wall advertising âherbal solutionsâ is also a covert way of selling PEDâs, but thatâs just my inference from the wording.
Point is, this isnât an issue of dry scooping, or even preworkout in general, as much as it is one of a wider cultural norm and a lack of education surrounding supplements. Nothing new really.
Oh yeah, I remember the days when you could walk into any old gas station and buy 3000 tabs of 3mg Ephidrine HCL no questions asked. The ECA stack was a popular option during cut weeks. This would have beenâŚlikeâŚmid-to-late 90âs when ketogenic dieting was all the rage and people were cooking their innards with DNP. Pump-n-Pose was new. Idiocy is certainly not generational but constantâŚonly the products will vary.
But in terms of dangerous supplements, 250mg doesnât really make the cut. I think in this case something else was in the mixâŚmaybe something that you might not be too candid about when talking to the authorities.
If this is the same situation I have read about, the issue is there are individuals who are sensitive to caffeine or have negative reactions to caffeine but donât know it because they have never tried high doses of caffeine before and then go and dry-scoop a pre-workout and dump a high dose of stimulants into their body in a short period of time. I read of a similar case and it was the womanâs first time dry-scooping. Could be a different case or I could be mistaken, but I wouldnât jump to the conclusion that there were some work-place shenanigans.
Some pre-workouts outside the US also have DMAA which could also contribute to negative side effects.
Yeah, thatâs a good point! Plus, this particular person probably weighs 60lbs less than I do. So >200 migs of caffeine could be a big dose on a per kg basisâŚ