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I think one way to help people is we could predict your 20 min and 60 min power and put that on the career page.

Then when you change your FTP, your predicted power doesn’t actually change. The FTP just helps you understand workouts more easily than pure watts.

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This would be incredible.

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So bizarre. A company getting criticized for showing adverts on social media promoting their new features.

What do you want them to do, sit around for the next 12 months and hope word of mouth helps them get new members.

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Although I was being tongue in cheek, the serious side is that I don’t believe the limitations on TSS ~260 AI has given me in recent years.

My peak performances and FTP correlates to 310-380 TSS six week averages. Although I believe in minimum effective dose, and in some years I’ve seen good progress on 200-260 averages, that hasn’t worked in recent years. Of course, these aren’t the only factors in bike training and being a long course triathlete makes things more complex again, but if other triathletes are doing 500-700 TSS a week…

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The marketing is what drives sales, it’s working because it’s making me think about subscribing again.

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I’ve been doing this roughly by spreadsheet for the last couple of years and have only been mildly successful in my predictions. I’m looking forward to throwing that spreadsheet away :rofl: I’m very excited for the update :clap:t5:

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Great insights and thoughts on these new features.

I was hesitant to be taking 2 weeks off this Christmas but having this new solution in time to kick off 2026 has put those nagging thoughts to rest.

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Great work Nate and team can’t wait to see it.

I’ve always wanted a TR plan that adjusts and knows what to prescribe me.

And yet still some find something pointless to complain about :grinning_face:

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FTP is all a cyclist has for self worth, didn’t you know?

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Put the shovel away.

He clearly stated in the link above it was never meant to be an hour. That is the most recent, since you incorrectly brought up what he “still” says. He also states that he fixed it in the 3rd edition, you failed to quote the most recent copy of his book.

You are the one and only person who came in here shouting that it was wrong to decouple the hour from FTP because that is what it was defined as and the guy who coined the term states you are in fact wrong.

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I just happened to listen to the Empirical Cycling podcast on FTP testing while riding today. He mentioned the AC meant 40 to 70 minutes when saying approximately an hour.

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Hilarious. We’re back to “the definition of FTP” debate. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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It will be interesting to see how the addition/removal of strength training will impact FTP predictions.

Like most I can’t wait for the release and hope it is soon. I’m sure it will be covered in info to follow, but will people’s existing training plans for 2026 and especially around those where numerous events have been inserted still be maintained, or will a new training plan need to be started.

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Oh god did someone mention Coggan?

Sigh….

Way to kill the mood.

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There needs to be a cycling version of Godwin’s Law where every discussion eventually devolves into arguing about what FTP actually is.

Godwin’s law: “As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison to Hitler or Nazis approaches 1.”

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Coggan’s Law: “After approximately one hour of online discussion about cycling, the probability that the next message debates the definition of FTP approaches 1.”

Also Coggan’s law: “As any online discussion about cycling grows longer, the probability that the next message debates the definition of FTP approaches 1.”

(er, maybe Cogwin’s law?)

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