Tried out Magic road yesterday and really enjoyed it. The change in slope, as with their normal routes, are very smooth and realistic (Drivo, gen 1). I don’t experience the same lag as in Zwift. I wished there were more of a visual queue for the climbs. Only negative was my cadence wasn’t showing. It was working fine the hour prior where I was doing hill repeats on Cap Formentor.
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I assume we were in the same race.
I had an ok experience but about 20 minutes into the race everything went wild. The resistance of ym trainer would drop to absolute zero anytime I was near anyone. Would go from 350watts to 50watts in a second. Totally frustrating. I gave up and went back to Zwift.
I tested a couple of times and had a good experience but there weren’t many others and never really drafted. I’ll keep trying but if the drops keep happening I don’t think I’d keep with it.
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Manitoba Cycling? If so, then yes. I remember one (you?) or two people on chat saying they were having issues. I would definitely not continue if that happened a couple times. I have noticed there aren’t too many people on the platform, which is fine for standard rides but not good for actual races. Are you going to try again next weekend?
With Zwift, I had two back to back instances where my trainer was connected but no power was read. First time was shortly after the start of a group ride, and second time was before I even got started. Took a few minutes to resolve but it got working again.
Awesome, thank you alt-enter works to put it into a window and it does let me then play music via Spotify.
To access graphics settings it is on the phone app by clicking the green screen icon in the top left (which i was scared to press as assume it turned the screen off…). On my surface the lowest setting appears to do 30ish FPS (with character stationary, not tried pedalling) which is more acceptable, although it looks very basic. Medium looks so much nice but sits at just under 20 FPS, ultra then goes back to 12ish. Medium actually looks best bang for buck but not sure I can live with 20FPS. Will try it on my big (but old) laptop at some point and see how that goes.
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How? Doesn’t it have to be on group rides or races created only by premium?
For the last 2 weekends IV used RGT After doing my 3 LV TR workouts during the week. RGT on weekends are a substitute for my outdoor group rides. I know RGT since the previous app. It’s not perfect but it has a great potencial and it has improved a lot.
First weekend did ventoux with no problems. Yesterday did formentor pienza and paterberg and only some mild issues once the HR had to be recconected and once also the cadence sensor. But the general ride is very nice inspite I’ve got a setup near to the minimum requirements and therefore have to put the graphics at the lowest resolution.
Yes, it’s a premium feature and created as either “private” group ride or race. I joined a group ride but haven’t done a race yet. For the group ride, you need 5 people to signup and rides are advertised on the “RGT User Events” facebook page. To create a “magic road” you need to email RGT (magicroads@rgtcycling.com) a GPX file that’s less than 62 miles. Once it’s in your library, you can create a “private” event (or use their generic routes). After a ride is created, post the ride on the facebook page and hope 5 riders signs up (they don’t need to show).
I know creating both races or group rides its a premium feature either for real or magic roads. Just doing a Magic Road either on a race or group I didn’t know if it was necessary to be premium because on their webpage its listed the differences and Join event its free with no distinction between Standard roads or magic roads has the do in the create function.
Well I´ve got the answer already on facebook RGT users page. We can join group and races either on real or magic roads. Just have to know when magic road events are scheduled to join in.
Used this for the first time this evening, once I got it going I really enjoyed it, did the Pienza circuit, even just spinning around on it it was a good workout with the climbs.
I have my trainer set up in the back garden this last week with the weather, so using a phone and iPad the screen brightness was probably at 100% and using it for just over an hour nearly drained both batteries, will need to keep an eye out on that.
Will try and get into a race at some stage
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Anyone getting power drops? It’s persistent and irregular. On my last 60 minutes ride, no coasting, only 53:26 is recorded. PC Win 10 Home, Ant+, Drivo Gen 1, & Huawei P10. Data is from email. I haven’t re-sync with Strava yet but this did not happen on the prior version w/phone companion (4 rides so far and every ride data is “incomplete”). Same equipment but I don’t get the drop out with TR & Zwift. I have Samsung Galaxy S7 that I’ll try to see if the behavior continues and if the data uploaded to Strava is cleaner. I highly doubt it.
Did my first race this evening, got blown out of it at the start but soldiered on anyway and set a new power record for the duration of the race.
For some reason my RGT didn’t control my flux trainer which was annoying, everything was connected as it should be, is this normal for a race? when it was over i went back into the circuit and the trainer took control of the trainer.
also anyone know why the flux seems to broadcast two bluetooth options? is this normal with other Tacx trainers?
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It seems you don’t have Ant+ but I guess the principle still applies. On my screen I see my Zumo twice also, this is normal. Mine are labelled trainer and power, if you want the turbo to be controlled by the app you have to select the trainer option. The way yours is listed I’m not sure but swap between them and try a ride on one of the free roads
Yeah, I’ve no ant+ on my phone, It works fine in a free ride with either option selected so no idea what happened here. I’ll try another one and see what happens
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My first go with a Tacx trainer as mentioned above somewhere came up as a power meter and therefore didn’t react properly.
No idea why RGT does this, Zwift never has.
My guess is from your screenshot is that it is because there are two different trainer control protocols. Before FTMS was a thing Tacx trainers could be controlled by a Tacx’s own protocol, which was, I think, essentially ANT+ Protocol in a Bluetooth envelope. From memory TrainerRoad could control Tacx trainers using Bluetooth before FTMS.
I can’t remember exactly what mine says but it worked over Bluetooth when I raced that circuit (possibly same race) using a Windows 10 PC and an iPhone 6s.
I too completely underestimated how mad people would go at the start. I had expected an above FTP effort for a few minutes, but that was crazy. I have since done a second race and in that one I expected it so hung on. There’s a downhill after a flat bit to start the Paterberg circuit: I suspect that accentuated it because people knew they could rest up a bit on the downhill.
I probably should have done a warm up on RGT first to make sure everything was connected, as i say it worked every other time when not in a race.
Yeah the start was crazy, will def be prepared for the next time, i didn’t find you could get a breather at all though as I was constantly chasing, maybe if I had to hang on to the bunch i could have got a breather as you say, sure it was a good training session in the end!
There definitely was a breather in my second race (if you keep in the front group). I bet the people we lapped were actually doing higher average powers.
Not too much though. You need to stay in the first 6 or so. I drifted off the back once and it took my hardest effort all race to get back on.
The other thing I realised is that the Ant+ signal (don’t know Bluetooth but assume it’s the same) only updates 1 times each second, which is too long because, if you’re unlucky and accelerate to catch up, your added power won’t update the avatar for up to 999 milliseconds, so you have to predict needed surges. Easiest is the start. I ramp up to start power now 1 second before the start, but if you think someone’s about to break you have to ramp up. Lots of false starts and I sent myself flying off the front quite a few times, but much less tiring than trying to get back on.
I think the VR and trainer companies need to work on improving the latency if VR racing is to take off. Even a 100ms is quite a lot if you’re trying to react.
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I tried to do a race yesterday. I did a 10 minute warm up on the Bar 8 course…lined up for the race and everyone left but me, I was probably pushing 300 watts but RGT had dropped my power meter.
I just lost server at the start of my third race and had to catch up. Luckily I made it back.
I guess it’s just like a technical on an outside race, but there is nothing you can do.
Pretty sure there were 2 invisible riders in mine. I thought I was 2nd but was 4th. I was disappointed, but the South African guy who beat me (he overtook before penultimate turn but died, only for me to take a ridiculous route through the last corner) probably thought he won (assuming he couldn’t see the same people). At least I knew I’d lost and still lost. I had actually noticed an invisible person in the list on the left when I wasn’t so tired.
The checked what my phone says it only says the Tacx one
Tactic wise I noticed something else: I warned up sat there and was first on the list. Loads of people log on for a good position and then do nothing for 10 -15 minutes. So, I’d suggest logging on about 20 minutes before, even if you’re not ready to cycle yet.
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Does the downhill simulation on your Neo make a difference? I don’t have that on the flux so if you want to get into a big gear on a downhill section you have to put out a lot of power, I guess you don’t really need to do that with the speed simulation though