Yay!!! Stoked the analogy worked 
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Yes. Normally, if the plan goes into a bad state a rebuild is the best thing 
Hereās something I missed initially, and maybe others might do too:-
I have a plan in my Calendar which starts next week, and wanted to adjust the duration of one of the weekly workouts. I knew this would be something you could do, as you could with the previous Plan Builder versionā¦
I began by editing my plan (pressing the āEdit Planā red button within my planās Drawer), but the workflow for this plan editing route leads you through the āChoose your Training Approachā wizard step, which involves Generating an entirely new Schedule, apparently taking no account of your earlier (your existing) planās schedule. Taking this route, your existing planās Schedule is not presented as a default simply to be edited. For example, if when creating your existing plan you had changed from the āRecommendedā approach, or adjusted Settings such as Workouts per Week or Intense Days per Week, or adjusted which days of the week your workouts were on, or whether Inside or Outside, or their Durations, all these customisations would now be lost if you continued with this plan editing routeā¦ 
To do what I wanted to achieve - retain my existing plan but simply edit the scheduling alone - then instead of using the Edit Plan red button, I needed to click/select the āTraining Daysā area within my planās Drawer, which changes to show āEdit Weekly Scheduleā when you mouse hover over it:
Clicking/selecting this takes you directly into the āTraining Scheduleā step of Plan Builder; here, the existing schedule is now fully retained and presented for editing - just what I wanted! 
I think it would be easy for people - esp. new users - to overlook this ability to quickly adjust the existing schedule (with all existing selections retained as the defaults). The red Edit Plan button is a more obvious place to click to āedit your planā rather than hovering over and clicking in the Training Days area.
Maybe the UI could be tweaked, so the ability to jump into editing the Training Days directly is conveyed more explicitly, without requiring a mouse hover to reveal it ?
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I could have done, if
a: Iād known about such a thing
or
b: The support agent I was speaking to had suggested it, instead of telling me it would take āsome timeā to fix.
My plan didnāt even really exist. Iād created one, everything looked ok, and then I wanted to change the duration. It took me back through the wizard and would no longer give me 2 hard interval sessions per week.
Thatās why itās so frustrating to be told that this kind of thing can just happen, and that itās a complicated beast that canāt be fully tested. In my case I had a brand new plan with almost no alterations, and apparently thatās enough to get it into such a state that even minor tweaks need hours of fixing by a support agent.
Go back to using intervals.icu for my calendar with workouts from TrainerDay, probably (which is what I was doing over summer anyway)
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We look at all types of rides when generating your recommended training plan.
We did recommend starting with low volume and slowly adding volume as you saw fit in the past, but what weāre able to recommend to each individual now is a much better option for them in our opinion.
Well, I wasnāt exactly driven away previously, it was just summer and I wasnāt doing a lot of structured workouts. I did have a few gripes, but the major one I had was resolved by simply disabling RLGL.
I kept an eye on TR, and liked the sound of a lot of the changes. As a triathlete, importing all workout types including swimming was big, and the personalised plans sounded great. But, yeah, if it falls over this early in the processā¦
@AldridgePrior, thank you so much for taking the time to write this out! I will send it to the team as I also find it very important
I will have to agree that the Edit Weekly Schedule can be easy to miss. A good example is @sprouty76 experience. Instead of going to the Edit Weekly Schedule, it looks like he went through the Edit Plan button, which rebuilt the entire plan, which in his case, triggered a bug. We did, however, fix the issue with the plan and are looking into what may have caused it.
I did want to add that the conversation you had (@sprouty76) with our Support agent was over chat and on the spot. We will not always have the answers at hand or the correct words (ābad stateā) for issues as we are humans instead of bots behind it all. We always try to do our due diligence to get to the bottom of these issues, fix them as fast as we can, and follow up with our athletes. I do genuinely regret that this experience caused you to turn away.
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I will have to agree that the Edit Weekly Schedule can be easy to miss. A good example is @sprouty76 experience. Instead of going to the Edit Weekly Schedule, it looks like he went through the Edit Plan button, which rebuilt the entire plan, which in his case, triggered a bug. We did, however, fix the issue with the plan and are looking into what may have caused it.
Except I didnāt want to edit the weekly schedule - the weekly schedule was fine initially. It was the duration of the plan that I wanted to change, and when I tried to do so, it insisted on making me redo the weekly schedule (but this time around wouldnāt allow me to do it correctly). If Iād been able to simply extend the plan without touching the weekly schedule from how I originally had it, everything would have been fine.
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Perfect. Thank you for clarifying
This is what I was trying to explain in my last comment. Instead of going through the Edit Plan button, you can use the Edit Weekly Schedule and simply adjust the volume through there without having to re-adjust everything. Using the Edit Plan button will have you go through all the steps of rebuilding a plan, including re-setting your weekly schedule.
Update: the team has fixed the bug so this should not be happening anymore Thank you for bringing it to our attention.
Anyone else seeing changes to their recovery week under a new plan? I just hit my first recovery week and it has .73 IF zone 2 rides the first 3 days of the week, then the second half of the week workouts are high 40s-low 50s IF rides.
Previous plan recovery weeks never had 70s IF rides. Iām not opposed. I always double check my fatigue using TrainingPeaks, and Iāll still have a +20 fatigue when regular training resumes next week. This is basically the number I always shot for under previous plans. I never really followed the TR recovery week schedule and instead shot for 50-60% of the previous weekās TSS.
Anyone else seeing a ānewā looking recovery week?
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Erm, no,
I was trying to change the duration of the entire plan from 2 to 3 months, not the duration of individual workouts. Is that something that can be done from the Edit Weekly Schedule button? Because if so, that name makes literally no sense (I canāt check myself, not being a subscriber any more)
In that case, then yes. You have to rebuild the plan since youāre essentially changing the original structure.
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Iām getting ready to start training again after a 2 week break and was playing around with Plan Builder the other night. I was a little surprised it was recommending a 45 minute hard workout on Saturdays. Last year I would usually do a 2 hour threshold workout on Saturday. Iām not opposed to to a shorter workout, but I work a physical job and Saturdayās are the best day to get a hard workout in and itās hardly worth getting all kitted up for a 45 minute ride. Would I be best off just changing this to a 2 hour workout? Doing the 45 minute workout and just riding 75 minutes of Z2 when itās done? Or doing the 45 minute workout and adding a 75 minute endurance workout afterwards? Thanks!
Okā¦so I went back in to customize my plan again. I havenāt actually started one yet. It now recommends 3 hard interval days (two 1 hr and one 90 min) plus a 1 hr endurance ride. This is on the balanced setting again. Very interesting to see the ācustom plan builderā go from two 1 hr intervals plus one 45min and a 1hr endurance, to this suggestion. Makes no sense to see such a big swing in intensity. I did not manually select or alter any of the durations in any scenario.
I also find it very strange that on the aggressive setting the plan adds a 30 min āeasyā ride. What is even the point of that?
If I can manage three 1 hr sessions and a 90, whatās the best mix? I am thinking of the hour sessions being intervals and 90 min being endurance for best base build. The inconsistency in recommendations over such a close time frame is seriously concerning. Please let me know if this is intended or a glitch.
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Customized plan actually increasing my volume? 
Here is my chart for 2024. Take a look at the bars for the upcoming weeks in grey. See how they have those lighter grey tops? That is extra volume that wasnāt there last week. I started this plan on Oct 8, and now the week of Nov 8 it showing extra volume. This is what we were told would happen, a montly check-in and possible adjustment. Bravo TR.
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Out of curiosity, did you experience some other form of check in or did this just show up on the chart?
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No, there wasnāt anything except the extra volume showing up on the bar chart.
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I need to edit my plan, but it gives me 3 intense days on Demanding, Masters plan. I had the same problem some weeks ago, but back then I could start making a Balanced plan and then change it to Demanding which would keep the 2 intense days. This time I had to make a Moderate plan and then a Demanding plan to keep the 2 intense days.
Is it possible to edit the plan using the old plan builder?