Better…your head is much lower relative to your shoulders.
Hard to tell w/o a video, or at least a pic with your leg @ 6:00 position, but looks like your saddle may be a bit high. If you look at the extension in the first pic of the new position, and the pedal position, I’d be worried about how extended your leg is at the bottom of the stroke.
I’d recommend working in your hip rotation. Your hips are pretty vertical and you are basically just bending over at the waist. If you can rotate your hips forward, you’ll reduce some more of the upper body tension and be more comfortable.
Here is a 6o clock pic. I did work with a fitter for the backend and I have a follow up due so I will double check on the saddle as I raised it after switching from 175 to 165mm cranks.
I am using a bi saddle as I have suffered with pain and numbness with every other saddle including ISM saddles. With the bi saddle I can hold the aero position for a couple of hours without any pain or discomfort at all. It has been a revelation and I have another one on my road bike.
Could use some advice please on a new cockpit for an old Fuji TT bike that I bought to do triathlon 10 or more years ago. The bike is great, but it has a cockpit that seems quite old school now - the bar extensions are designed to be almost horizontal, with a little bit of lift at the end for your hands. Newer setups seem to prefer a much higher hand position? The way mine clamp onto the base bar is also awkward - I can’t get the bars to stay firmly clamped unless I have them uncomfortably narrow.
So … I’m looking for a different cockpit - almost certainly used, as I’m just dabbling in TT again and don’t want to spend a fortune. Any recommendations for brands to look for? There seems loads of stuff on eBay from Vision and Priofile Design for example. FWIW I’m in the UK.
Agree. The leg is almost fully extended, it definitely looks a cm or so too high. That would also bring the shoulders a little higher and maybe the head down…
What are you using for a front wheel riser? It looks like it is too low…the front appears to be lower than the rear. This is also likely contributing to the hunch in your back.
… bladder down front - or a beer gut… apparently both offer aero advantages
on a more serious note, I did a 50m TT in 32 degrees and by 90 mins in my water bottles were horribly luke warm. i have no idea how hot the drink in a bladder underneah or on top would get, when combining ambiant heat with body heat, but I imagine it would get pretty unpleasant.
I have a Giro Aerohead. In 2019 I used it in 3x50m TTs, 3x100m Tt and a 12 hr TT. No problems with weight at all. The issue is more having a position where your head is comfortable for long distances (times) and aero.
I understand the POC cerebel is good on the track where airflow is more stable. Seen mixed views on head position and side winds(but cannot recall where seeing it. Po
ssibly Huub team discussions, but not sure).
This is a bit of a dilemma. 3T used to do a great options, but the separated risers for different models and then phased stuff out. I think there are four broad camps here:
Loog for good flexible 3T sets (eg Vola), get risers if you can and use the extensions that suit your position. The dilemma here is tilting bars can lead to tilted base bars which is not idea. So trick is to try various extensions. profile also do some.
An integrated cockpit as a part of the frame. Expensive. (New bike). Pain in the preverbial to adjust height for longer races (I was doing 10m and 12 hr in 2019 so would raise bars for longer races.
Separare base bar and then choosing the clamp rider and extension options separately. Again 3T and profile seem teh main players.
A fancy integrated cockpit that (base bar and extensions) that seem to cost around £1000.
I hope this helps.
Final thought 22mm waste water pipe is teh same diameter a 22mm extensions. So you can buy a 3m length and use it to mock up various extensions (saw carefuully at angles and tape together) to see how they would feel and where they would position. Far cheaper than buythe extensions then selling them on… (Definitely NOT for racing with though!)
“on a more serious note, I did a 50m TT in 32 degrees and by 90 mins in my water bottles were horribly luke warm. i have no idea how hot the drink in a bladder underneah or on top would get, when combining ambiant heat with body heat, but I imagine it would get pretty unpleasant.”
Start with the bladder frozen or at least slushy, the drink stays cool much longer & as a bonus you get pleasant cooling from the bladder.
I have always frozen my water bottles that get handed in for the ‘special needs’ aids station 65 miles into the Lanzarote Ironman bike leg… most refreshing having slogged up a hill to get there
Good advice. For folks experimenting with position and not wanting to spend a fortune, the Zipp alumina kit is a decent value. Can also get custom pad holders from aftermarket companies with different degrees of tilt built into the cups. May have to drill holes to match your bars but that is easy stuff.
What I do when buying a base bar system is to also purchase the full set of risers meant for that bar. I might want low rise stack today but a few years later want experiment with a high riser stack. If I have the risers it’s easy to test. I went all in on the 3T Brezza system years ago and have two base bars (normal and nano) and multiple sets of extensions. Have used them on multiple bikes for years now trying different positions.
Years ago… a few of us local TT nuts were bending our own extensions from aluminum 6061-T6 tube (7/8" OD and 0.125 wall IIRC). To experiment with different positions but that material is suitable for long term use and is what most commercial extensions are made of. The A2 wind tunnel was accessible at reasonable cost so things went a bit over the top wrt dialing in positions. Getting dialed in cheaply before dropping big money on carbon parts is worth it.
