# 2021 Venge...is it round the corner?

In our club’s group rides we routinely hit 30mph+ before a sprint. If we catch a tail wind on certain sections it could be 35-38+.

True!

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Well also remember that that 10 watts is usually measured at some sane power output…like 300 watts.

A pro sprinting at 40mph at 5X that 300 watts might save 50 watts.

Even on solo rides I hit 50 km/h on false flats and/or when I have the wind on my side. 35-45 km/h are not unusual in the least.

When you don’t race and you don’t care about every last bit of speed, then this may not matter. But, say, a 20-second advantage over a, say, 10-15 km lap during a race is huge.

From the SystemSix white paper:

Sprints are an obvious scenario where aerodynamic
optimization can have a big impact on performance.
The high speeds of a finale mean that aerodynamic drag
strongly dominates over other resistive forces. But just how
much difference can aerodynamic savings makes during
a final kick from the bunch? Let’s compare SystemSix and
SuperSix EVO – the two primary weapons of EF Education
First Drapac p/b Cannondale. Consider the final kick with
the final 200m covered at an average speed of 60 km/h.
For a typical rider that 12s effort would require an average
of 1000W. Over this final kick the SystemSix would achieve
a 2.1 km/h top speed and reach the line 0.4 sec ahead of
the modern race bike. That doesn’t sound like a big margin,
but at 60km/h that equates to 7.2m, or four bike lengths.
That is a huge difference over just the final 200m of a race.
Add to this the fact that SystemSix requires far less power
on the high speed run in to the finish, even when drafting.

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Though aero gains don’t care about your moving speed but rather your velocity relative to the air. So 38 mph with an 8 mph tailwind would see the same aero losses as 30 with no wind.

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I agree when comparing it to the previous model, but the 2021 BMC Teammachine changes things:

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With the arrival of SL7, the word is that the Venge will be available as a frame set only.
Saw these of FB
Can anyone confirm whether they are real?

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If the venge had a bsa threaded bottom bracket in the frameset incarnation, that would be wonderful.

I still think the Venge looks cooler than the Tarmac (I have an SL6 Tarmac and still wish I bought the Venge)

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I hope they bring the Venge back so I can buy a frame or complete bike. Maybe SL7 is the best bike for everything but I am kicking myself not buying Venge now.

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You can still buy the Venge Frameset

Ive just ordered a 2020 black frameset from my LBS

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Did you get a discount? I don’t see how they can continue to sell that frame for \$6000 when they are selling the S Works Tarmac frame for \$5000 while claiming it’s a better bike.

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S-WORKS Venge frameset in the UK is/was £3,700, was it really \$6k dollars in the US?

Sagan version is \$6000 and regular is \$5500 on the US website.

Just for reference the Sagan is £3,900 in UK if you can find stock

I was able to secure the frameset for \$5200 AUD- Satin Black/Silver Holo/Clean (2019?)

Nice! Way better than \$6k usd/\$8400 AUD!

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“Tarmac Sprint”

Thank you, will check that with my LBS.