Why am I so slow in flat road?

I’ve been wondering why I’m so slow on flat terrain. My FTP is 290W, and I weigh 55kg, but when I put out around 300W on flat roads, I only manage 35-37 km/h on calm, windless roads and 33-35 km/h on open, windy roads, like those at the airport. What’s really puzzling is that I sold my Assioma pedals to someone who can sustain just 260W on their TT bike and hit 45 km/h, literally using my pm which seems crazy to me since I know I’m a stronger rider than him.


I’ve confirmed my power meter is accurate; Assioma verified the internal readings, and my mechanic torqued everything to 40Nm. Plus, I calibrate the pedals regularly. To give you an idea of my fitness, I recently climbed a 12.6 km, 7.6% grade local mountain in 43 minutes. So, I’m wondering—could it just be that I’m not aerodynamic enough? I do wear a somewhat bulky jacket and pants, but does that really account for such a big difference in speed?

1 Like

You have likely answered your own question already…

You are comparing yourself to someone on a TT bike. Apples and Oranges. Zero basis for comparison.

Compounded by this. Bulky clothes are a MASSIVE watt suck.

11 Likes

And of course position on bike. I will assume you have fast tires but using something like Gatorskins will really suck speed away.

2 Likes

300w is nice if you’re really skinny and small, but it’s just not that much watts. I could ride 300 for hours steady. Bigger people are just stronger in an absolute sense, so when they isn’t gravity to fight, they’re just faster than little guys

2 Likes

Your position on the bike must be upright no? Even when wearing winter kit I can average ~40 on my winter bike with less watts than what you are doing. What is your setup?

1 Like

I quit at 55 kg … at 120 pounds with baggy jacket and pants, yeah the wind is pretty strong in comparison.

I’m your size with your power so I know what you mean.
I does sound like a very low speed for that power to me. Is it like this all year? Because air pressure makes a difference, and winter means more clothes and more air resistance.

I’d say if I put it 300 watts on a flat road at sea level on a still summer morning I’m definitely over 40 km/h. Without a doubt, without going into super aero position or anything crazy.

1 Like

34 Likes

I hope I am skinny and small then at nowhere near 300w ftp.

2 Likes

There’s plenty of folk Im stronger than or was but they will spank me in TTs especially on flatter terrain, being a smaller rider my self, because they are more efficient/ aerodynamic/ talented with what they’ve got and if you are wearing baggy clothes, perhaps sitting up right on a different sort of bike you will especially suffer from being less aerodynamic and will be easily slower.

PS great numbers. The last time I was in the 290-300w range I weighed 65kg. I might have been in it more pre power meter but I couldn’t be certain.

We must have very different definitions of “winter kit”, “winter bike”, and quite possibly “winter” or even “40”!

2 Likes

Yes, clothes are, together with body position, the single biggest factor when it comes to aerodynamic drag. That’s where I’d start.

A TT bike is not comparable to a road bike. You are more aero, but much more constrained. Plus, I assume that person will have a bodysuit or at least tight-fitting clothes.

It’s one of four things (or a combo):

  • aerodynamics
  • Headwind
  • Rolling resistance
  • Power meter is off

I’m 85kg and ~310W is 40kph on a flat road for me without getting very aero on a road bike. Just relaxed with straight arms in the drops.

You’d have to be incredibly unaero for it just to be down to aerodynamics.

2 Likes

Just had a quick play with an online calculator. Assuming weight, pm, rolling resistance etc are all in good shape your cda would need to be somewhere around 0.45 to only hit ~36kph off 300W in a flat road without wind. That’s a very, very high cda for someone at 55kg on a road bike so I expect there’s something else going on as well.

I’m 177 cm and 70 kg and need to produce 200 w to hold 35 km/h, for reference. According to mywindsock.com my CdA is usually just under 0.3.

Below is a link to a calculator that I have found gives numbers that’s inline with what I have experienced:

https://search.app?link=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gribble.org%2Fcycling%2Fpower_v_speed.html&utm_campaign=aga&utm_source=agsadl1%2Csh%2Fx%2Fgs%2Fm2%2F4

I can ride that 35 kph speed on the flat on my FS mtb on the road, sitting fairly upright, and I weigh a little over 200# (92kg).

Did you recently replace brake pads and not spread the calipers enough? Do your wheel bearings make a lot of noise, a scraping or crunching sound, maybe? :smile:

Oh maybe my speed is not that off because one of the strongest cyclist in my town (36min Seymour, only 2min slower than Phil Gaimon) rode the same route as I did and he was also averaging 35km/h @ 300w and I know he’s aero af.

1 Like

I think we all know what is off, which is the power meter. OP has a 5.3 w/kg ftp and has come here to ask such a basic question? People with 5+ w/kg don’t get there by accident. I would imagine they are one of the best cyclists in their regional area

7 Likes

Except the OP said it has been confirmed as accurate by Assioma…