Congrats and well done! And you’re right on buying your wife new bibs:)
Curious what you saw and where it was? Seems like this message has been coming out of TR for a while with nothing of note yet. I would love to see what they can bring to bear.
In the meantime, 4 weeks out from my TKR I’m still working ROM on the trainer and eager to be cleared to actually turn the pedals on the road. So if the TR over 60 stuff is a bit longer in development that’s ok for me personally… 
You can find Nate’s posts in this thread back on Feb 5 and 7, where he mentions some things that TR (Amber?) is working on, but I don’t believe there is a timeline for it yet. There have also been some great suggestions from the forum users about stretching out the plans, etc., but I would also add my 0.02 to that and say it would help to lower the cadence targets for the sweet spot and threshold efforts from 85-95pm to be something more reasonable based on age or max HR. For me personally (at 61 with a max HR 175), 75-85 rpm works MUCH better.
Dont know that low cadence is based on age. At 60 my cadence for outdoor rides falls naturally in the 87-95 range. I find it easier to have less strain on legs and more on cardio system so a higher cadence does make it feel easier. I think it is very individualistic
Agree, outside my cadence naturally falls into the mid to upper 90’s, usually around 100 on the trainer, age 66
That’s interesting to hear. Are you spinning at 100rpm even for longer sweet spot and threshold efforts (10+ mins)? That was my main issue. The cadence is too high for me to sustain the longer efforts. I believe it was also affecting my ramp test results. Anyway, I guess we’ll just have to wait and see what TR comes up with. They should have a lot of data to mine to figure out how to tweak things for us older cyclists.
Today’s workout was Mount Field, 3 x 12 min at 85% of FTP. My cadence during the intervals was right at 100, and during the rest periods, I slowed it down some. I tacked on 30 min of zone 2 at the end, and cadence dropped somewhat into the high to mid 90’s. Typical for me, efforts above FTP on the trainer, I’m usually at 105.
I’m very late to this thread but want to add my two peso’s. I’m 57 and have been using TR for two years, training with power and indoors with structure for 10+. Covid allowed me to use plan builder all year for a mid-October 2020 peak. My compliance was good until the speciality phase and then I just couldn’t hit the marks. Was really bummed about it and hence the look at forum.
I don’t know what I’d prefer more - I’m hoping TR will do the research and adopt plan builder according to science and work with masters athletes and coaches!
Keep up the great work TR and threw a few handfulls of development dollars to the old farts!
Cadence is very personal, and I’m with you on this one. My legs can produce decent amount of force, and I naturally spin in the 70s and 80s. Related? Dunno. Seems like I prefer torquey efforts to aerobic ones. During workouts I work on spinning faster to increase my range of cadence. Hitting 90+rpm on trainer sweet spot efforts puts a smile on my face 
In general, I’ve learned that my HR is more of a limiter than my legs on the longer efforts, especially if I try to spin at the target 85-95 rpm. So, my goal was to try to back off my cadence in such a way that I don’t burn up before my legs actually give out and that has worked well for me. My last workout was Wright Peak -6 with 2x30 at 94% and I actually made it, but only because I lowered my cadence to the 75-85 range. So, I was wondering if this was a common trend among older cyclists, or it’s still very much just a personal thing. This is my first experience with real structured training, so I’m still learning a lot here and appreciate the feedback for sure.
Cadence is definitely personal. I’ve never seen any references to age and cadence.
If you asked, I would have guessed my cadence on solo, flat-ish rides would be 90+, as that’s what I shoot for. I think higher cadence= less RPE. BUT I just completed Mansfield +2 outside today, and my average cadence for all 6 intervals at 105% FTP was 77! That surprised me. Part of it may be due to needing to push my average lap watts to the target requires shifting into higher gears at times. I monitor my average watts for each interval, and don’t check my cadence. I haven’t checked but think my cadence would be higher on my Kickr in erg mode.
I have experimented with different cadences, and have always naturally pedalled at anything between 50- 97 rpm. 50 being on a mtb up a steep climb. Since using TR I realise I am perfectly capable of spinning at 150 revs, but just lazy, and lack of practice. I don’t know why age (64) should affect pedalling cadence. It might just be that we older athletes could do more of it in some of the sessions like Petit, where you can concentrate on tecnique.
I have tried doing max effort sprints at high revs but I feel like a car trying to do 100mph in 1st gear 
I’ve seen track riders produce huge whats at massive revs, so I’m obviously lacking there. But I am a diesel genetically, so again, i think it has not got to do with my age.
Also do we really need longer recovery? Yes if you are on a HV plan, but then riders of all ages often find they need to throw in a few days off here and there.
However ,if i do really muller myself , like Augusts 8 hour mtb race, I was not going up the mountains for a 6 hour fun ride with my mates the next day. Where a younger fit racer probably would. Interesting to see what Nate thinks about this. My attitude is, the more you get used to working at a higher level, the quicker you adapt ,and you recover more quickly. It just takes time.
Realized I miss planned my taper for last weekend’s gravel race. Followed plan builder and rode good but not great. After a week of recovery rides this week I had much more in the legs today than I did last Saturday. I think I’ll modify my plan with an extra week of taper/recovery before my “A” races next year. Another lesson on how to ride as a 60 year old.
Here is a question for the #OLDGUYSTRONG thread. My comfortable cadence is right at 90. Particularly using a SRAM Eagle setup on my fat bike (single chain ring), I have to have a pretty wide cadence range. Easy to go from 85 to 95 with one gear change.
Now, during a ramp test, I usually bail out when I set my highest HR BPM and hit that. I’m 59 and I usually stop my ramp test at 195 BPM. It doesn’t feel uncomfortable - just feels like my aerobic and muscular limit. I’m unable to keep my cadence at 90 right at that point as well. While a 195 HR sounds high, it feels fine to me. Is that too high for my age? Anyone have thoughts about high BPMs at older ages?
Thanks.
Hiya, I’m 63 with a HRM of 190. The research I have done seems to indicate max heart rate is very individual, especially with those who workout and maintain a healthy lifestyle.
Completely agree on variable max heart rate per individual, just like resting heart rate. If mine hits 190 please call 911. It tops out around 175 if I trash myself. My current resting heart rate is 40 or a difference of 135 or a 437.5% increase. Wonder if there is something to the difference between resting and max vs one or the other isolated. Sounds like a job for Coach @chad
Started this month to try and work in more strength work into my routine. I know strength work will definitely help me but it is surprising how much it takes out of me. Think I need to slow down my intensity of my rides while I sort out my adaptations to strength training.
The difference between resting and max heart rate can be used to estimate VO2 Max: Aerobic Capacity Calculator (V02 Max Calculator) - Calculator Academy
When I compare my VO2 max via this calculator is the calculation from my Garmin Fenix (which somehow also uses power) the two are within 3%.
I need that also and despite good intentions, have not been doing any strength work. I did some MTB for the first time recently and the lack of upper body strength was especially apparent. Coach Chad has a good routine… One note: TR recommends doing the upper body work on the same day as a “moderate” TR session. For me, I don’t think that will work and plan to do it on my rest dasy.