Who has taken the plunge? (Dropped TrainingPeaks, etc.)

That is correct. The only way to see all of the workouts and overall progression of the plan is to put on your calendar. The mobile app for this is a bit troublesome, so I always recommend using the web app on a computer for this. With the free account, applying the plan to your calendar will populate as intended. If it is populating not as intended, I would reach out to TP support or the training plan author. Moving workouts in the future is a premium feature. So, this is why you keep getting this popup. Unfortunately you are unable to disable that. Kudos to the product management team for that one. You can move workouts within 24 hours though. So, you could move today’s workout to tomorrow.

Let me know if you have any other questions. I worked at TP for a few years.

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I couldn’t do this. Any kind of move resulted in the ā€œsubscribeā€ pop-up.

The author’s instructions were to do 2-3 of these workouts per week (most people 2). One can choose the days so there is no way the author can program the plan for every scenario. So, I can understand why they come up they way they do.

It’s just bizarre that this is the way TP’s site works. I buy a plan and there is no obvious way to view what I bought in one place other than put it on a calendar and then view it one day at a time. Is this 1999 web 1.0? :slight_smile:

Mobile app. Scroll up annd down, only one thing to do. Thought it was as pretty obvious :man_shrugging:

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It is. However, users when adding/removing the plan don’t delete it first, add it, then you have it on your calendar 2 or 3 times. Seriously, at least 2 tickets a day on that. User error for sure.

It’s the way TP’s FREE site works. I understand you’re not able to do what you want easily, but that comes with paying for the app. If you’re thinking about paying for TP, I’m pretty sure they do Black Friday.

Yes, I get it. Had to navigate ESPN’s Fantasy Football website and app last week for the first time. Spent an hour trying to figure everything out.

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How would I know that that is the way the FREE app works. BTW, I’m a paying customer. I purchased a plan. I should be able to view it in an easy to use format. Having to put it on the half working calendar first is just bizzaro user interface design for a paying customer. My understanding is that the paid version works exactly the same.

I already purchased WKO5 from them and have zero need for their analytics.

Wind Warrior and DMV said it a few times now

I have no skin in this game. I understand you’re not happy with TP and don’t want to pay for a subscription. I was just reminding you that with the paid version, you can move things around further out.

FWIW my 23 year old just called me. She bought a stud finder and borrowed a drill, to hang up a mirror in her bathroom. She couldn’t get the screw to go into the drywall. We literally just hung up from the FaceTime call.

She had the drill in reverse.

:man_facepalming:

Things aren’t always as easy as we want them to be…

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You seem to have some skin in this game. Before you posted, I had already posted that I figured out the calendar manipulation with copy/paste. (TP probably doesn’t want people to know that.)

My chief issue was that consuming a plan you purchase is this cumbersome affair of putting the plan on the half working calendar and then looking at each workout one by one.

The interface isn’t obvious and it has nothing to do with paid or non paid. Paid works exactly the same way.

I originally posted because I thought I was missing something obvious.

Ok. I’ll stop trying to help. I do find it a little offensive that you’re taking your anger at TP out on me though. Oh well. Have a good night.

I was taking offense because it seemed like you kept suggesting that if I only paid TrainingPeaks everything would work great. I had already solved the calendar issue before you posted and paying them for Premium still doesn’t fix the interface issue of viewing a purchased plan. You still have to put it on their calendar to view it. It’s a weird design choice to me.

Anyway, I’ll assume that you were only trying to help and we can move on.

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I’m doing the opposite of the OP!

After finishing up my 6th year of cycling and my 5th year on TR, I’ve recently purchased TrainingPeaks for my first time ever. I love the ATP and planning my season based on TSS, CTL and Form goals for specific races.

I’ve stagnated with TR and now just use TR for the Calendar, workout library and AIFTP. I’ve recently turned off Adaptive Training as it got annoying since I’m not exactly following a TR plan as prescribed.

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I can’t remember 100% but I don’t remember having an issue with this when I had a free TP plan and bought a TP training plan. I would try re-adding it and if it still happens then reach out to TP support. I remember it all populated on the right days but you just can’t edit or move the workouts until you’re a couple days out on the free plan.

If I understand correctly, the problem is that the plan he bought doesn’t have days of the week assigned. The coach just sells you all the workouts and says ā€œdo a couple of these every weekā€. As a result, they all just plop into the calendar and then you have to then assign them to the days you want.

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Ahh, yeah if that’s the case then you might just have to manually copy/paste them around like he said he could do. The plan I had definitely had it all scheduled to specific days of the week.

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So am I, sort of. Since I’m mostly running, and adding a little cycling, and doing a little strength work, and learning to swim (eventual goal is obviously triathlon), I’m finding more value from TP Premium than I am from TrainerRoad, although I’ve always been happy with TR for my bike workouts. Nothing wrong with TR or TP… just that, over time, my needs fit one or the other better sometimes.

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Does TrainingPeaks offer anything that you don’t get in WKO5 or on intervals.icu?

AFAICT, the best use case for TP Premium may be by coached athletes whose coaches use the TP ecosystem.

I on the other hand, just started using TP. I’m looking forward to learning about the features and seeing how it compares to intervals.icu and TR.

I started using TP free in 2014 (?) or so, and later in 2016-2018 using premium (self-coached + TR), then back to free for a couple years while using TR, then in 2019 (?) while on TP free I bought WKO4, and then back to premium in 2020.

In 2020 I tried to use TP free and WKO with FasCat 18-weeks of sweet spot plan (self-coached). Two things convinced me to go back to premium (with discount code). One was the calendar feature and workout library - I have no idea how to build a library of workouts in WKO. The other was I find the TP mobile app of some use, after a ride or sitting on the couch in the evening.

Then Intervals came along. I’ve used it on the side for a year. Recently (6 months ago?) they added workouts and stuff. Haven’t tried it. There is some loss of control over graphing in Intervals, compared to my customized graphs and pages in WKO5. So I vastly prefer using WKO5. I have no idea how a library of workouts is handled, how to transfer my libraries of workouts and plans to Intervals, etc. Also I don’t like using Intervals on mobile, its too ā€œtwitchyā€ as compared to TP mobile. However there are a lot of things to like about Intervals.

Even without a coach I would pay (discounted) for TP Premium, to plan out my weeks. Because of the calendar, my libraries/plans,