Thanks @mcneese.chad. I’ve been meaning to try it forever but always forget to have a look. Seems great on first look!
I just signed up myself. Not dropping TP just yet but who knows. I am curious as to how they calculate fitness, as the number is well off from TP and doesn’t match strava either.
I’ve dropped TrainingPeaks, have kept Strava, and am also using Intervals.icu, which works with Strava and gives (IMO) really good analytics. I made a donation to the developer, but otherwise do not miss TP.
I’m on the same program and am pretty pleased with it.
Made the decision today to drop TP. I picked it up again (after a 6 month break) last year as I focused more on Tri but honestly, other than a better mobile calendar, i don’t think there is too much added value. I’ll miss non-cycling workouts automatically syncing but sure that’ll arrive here at some point.
I’m still waiting for the day… but TP still has a better dashboard for data analysis. Not even complicated stuff, just lots of simple and configurable charts. I’m starting to use the TR calendar more, but still think TP’s is more user friendly, especially on the mobile app. Some day…
Fitness should be very similar once enough of your history has synced and you have filled in historical FTP, especially if all your activities have power. If you have some HR only activities it is more likely to be different. If it doesn’t come right let me know
I’m fairly certain it’s because I deleted a handful of rides with power spikes out of Strava. They’re still in TP because the issue was with my power meter and zwift through BT but I used clean files from my head unit for TP. It’s only a couple points either way, and I’m not overly anal about metrics.
I’m going to play around with it on the desktop this week, but can’t see why I’d pay for TP. Great work!
Does anyone think TrainingPeaks will ever do a deal for or combine services for their existing premium customers for Best Bike Split? It’s kind of outrageous (IMHO) to be a TP Premium subscriber then have to sign up for a separate annual premium sub to BBS. I get they merged and have different ecosystems, but TP acquired them quite a long time ago. I’m already thinking of moving my training to Xert or Today’s Plan, but if TP offered some sort of BBS deal with my premium I’d stick around.
I took the plunge and got rid of TP premium and purchased WK05. Its a one time cost and provides every metric/chart you could ever dream of. Big learning curve but lots of support and videos to walk you through using it and how to self coach. I just got sick of paying $100+ per year for training peaks when WK05 saves $ in the long run. So I have trainerroad ($99 a year), free Strava, free training peaks and WK05 (one time charge of around $169.)
As long as I have a coach I need to keep TrainingPeaks. I’d drop the premium if going back to self coaching. TrainingPeaks is a lot like Strava in a way, decent product, but zero innovation over the years.
The innovation at TrainingPeaks has been delivered into WKO. Some really good stuff, but it has a learning curve.
I watch the vids for some tips on reading data, but for a coaching arrangement is TP is the go.
I wish the WKO interface was available in TP as an online tool, it looks great.
Isn’t it the opposite? I mean, doesn’t TP position WKO+ as their innovation engine, parts of which eventually get built into the online app?
The entire TP web and mobile UI could use a facelift, but the feature set is still pretty darn impressive. And I agree, it would be awesome if some/all of the WKO features made it to the web. However I like paying upfront despite having been in the software industry forever and pushing customers to subscription models for the last two decades.
@old_but_not_dead_yet haven’t looked at their positioning much beyond WKO is for coaches (and self-coached), and TP is for athletes. All I’m saying is the innovation has been delivered into WKO over the last 5 years.
Just cancelled my TP Premium account.
While the interface leaves something to be desired vs the TP app, intervals.icu gives me plenty of data for planning training. I’m still uploading to TP so I can have data run in WKO5, but honestly I don’t bother with it much.
Nice work @davidtinker
I dropped my premium TP account a while ago and found that TR was adequate. I do miss the analysis of fatigue and find that’s an easy metric to adjust a training plan as necessary. I was just about to re-up my TP premium account until I came across the fitness and fatigue analysis of my strava summit account. Would love a feature like this @Nate_Pearson, unless this is something that is already on TR and I’ve missed it somehow.
I concur. When WKO4 was being developed, Coogan even claimed to be re-doing everything from the ground up.
The problem with the Strava implementation is that it doesn’t keep historical FTP which means the training load going into the chart is wrong. You should have a look at the Intervals.icu version (shameless plug!).
I dropped TP for Intervals.icu. I’m super happy with it and have been using it for all my planning and analysis. Which reminds me, I need to go update my plan!