I just signed up for Training Peaks after ditching it a year ago. The only reason being that I’m planning my first triathlon ever and Trainer Road is still lagging here. Ditched Strava Summit, was not even sure why I was paying for it.
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On my list of 5 only 2 (TSS and IF) can be done on intervals.icu, unless I’m missing something. No idea why the TSS of last two outside rides in intervals.icu is not matching TR/WKO. I’m suspicious of intervals using processed power, although I set power spike to 99% to supposedly disable. But I don’t know, it’s annoying to go back and see a TSS that doesn’t match within a point or two.
I’m paying for TR plans, and find TR analytics more usable than intervals.icu on my mobile phone right after a ride. There are some interesting features in intervals.icu and currently it’s free, so yeah if you were only doing simple things in Golden Cheetah then intervals.icu is a great choice.
@bbarrera Any feedback on how you’ve got on with Athlean-X?
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I’m doing variations of this:
and mixing things up. Really really like some of Jeff’s AthleanX videos, need to create some bookmarks and a best of playlist. At this point the AthleanX plan I bought has become “throwing a tip into the jar.”
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Intervals.icu now has average power, variability index and efficiency factor. Even average power is somewhat tricky to work out (what duration to use? what about stops?) but these and TSS should be very close to TP numbers.
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Intervals.icu provides the weekly tally of TSS TSB CTL and ATL for free; just sync it with strava and it will start summarizing everything!
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Thanks! Looks good!
Having ditched TP last year, I have just got away from Strava. I don’t know why, but it feels great. I suspect it’s that I’m susceptible to a bit of comparing myself to others and judging myself by way of comparison rather than by my own performance. It is very liberating not worrying about whether I’m doing as much as everyone else, or going faster, further, more power etc.
I know not everyone suffers from this but I do think Strava creates an environment where people are exposed to this and can result in burnout, over-training or just reduced enjoyment from their sports. They are not responsible but if, like me, you know this is a weakness then Strava doesn’t help.
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Would love to join you in ditching TrainingPeaks (if only to have ‘one app to rule them all’, not only to save money). However, as a multi-sport ‘athlete’ TR isn’t quite there yet I’m afraid.
TP allows syncing / uploading of a much wider variety of sports (swim, running, kayaking etc) which TR just doesn’t do (yet).
The analysis features on TP are more full-featured and customisable than they are on TR as well.
That said, I’m still holding out hope. The recent advances in TR’s Calendar does mean that it has come into line with TP from a planning point of view, and the new (early access) Plan Builder feature may mean that it has actually pulled ahead in this respect. The plan builder even includes swims and run (but not ‘other’ sports yet). Once the importing and analysis of other sports comes into line with TP’s then I’ll be more than happy to use TR as my main app to rule them all.
Fingers crossed these features get rolled out soon and have the functionality we want from them. If previous TR solutions are anything to go by it could make TR awesome.
Al.
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One of TrainingPeaks’ features that I use all the time is syncing scheduled workouts (runs) to my garmin watch. For me to drop TP, TR needs to implement something similar. Unfortunately, I do not see that happening for years (if ever), since the running part of the tri plans are all based on RPE.
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@justal You summed it up beautifully! I am so hopeful that TR keeps developing and adding features, especially from a swim/run (triathlon) perspective. I’m anticipating that they will eventually be the one app with all the features I crave, whilst retaining the passion for cycling that it was founded on 
Great job TR Team… Keep it up!!
Same here. I’m going to try just the TR calendar (and plan builder) to start my season and see how it goes. I’ve also tentatively dropped my Strava Premium renewal as I’m waiting to see if the returning cofounder helps with strategic direction for features I am interested in before deciding what level of summit to use. TR is definitely my primary tool for 2020.
You should keep Strava. Its free and grants access to all the other tools that sync with it.
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Has anyone found something that will do something like what Strava has for personal heatmaps? It is by far my favorite Strava Summit feature, but I don’t really want to pay the annual fee just for that.
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I liked this mainly for your LOTR reference. 
After reading this and Anyone else switching off from Strava..?, I think I may be cancelling my Strava Premium account but keeping Strava because it does have some good functionality in the free version.
If you don’t mind a lot of tinkering with python, there is this tool:
If you can read German, the author has a Blogpost about it:
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So as of today (thanks to mostly going through the entire topic as well as others, getting pros and cons) I cancelled my renewal on TP as well. Only paid platform is now TR. Despite not having the analytics on TR I have given it a massive benefit of the doubt as I see things going nicely forward so I hope that TR will get there.
For now I will be using TR, free Strava for the segments and for the social element, as well as Elevate for Strava for the rough estimation of fitness and fatigue.
Things I would like to see on TR:
- definitely the analytics of TP would be great, fatigue, predicting fitness, racing cat. graphs etc.
- also in terms of analytics, Xert has a cool “spider graph” showing you your place in the various time interval slots in relation to other cyclists / sort of like the cat. placements in TP. So please do something like that
- something akin of TP’s workout builder. All things considered, that builder IMO is one of the best out there, clean, simple, intuitive and easy to use. Few clicks and boom a nice workout ready for syncing
- syncing of workouts to Wahoo could be easier (bit of a faf right now). Couldn’t I just click sync on my Wahoo and just as with TP Wahoo would just sync rides which I already have set up in my calendar?
- Also, I’m also curious why when you sync a workout as an outside workout the structure of it changes. Normally a warm up consists of an x amount of intervals with a specific level of intensity. When you choose the same workout as an outside workout the warm up is now just one interval with no specific intensity, it just says gradually work your way up to x intensity. So, don’t change the workouts, just allow me to do them as they are but outside
Anyways, looking forward to staying and seeing new stuff being brought in 
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I actually re-upped my TP premium account.
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I took a huge leap about a month ago and cancelled both TP and Zwift.
TP just required me to decide that having the CTL data wasn’t adding value relevant to the cost. I still wish TR would add it though.
For Zwift, I had always just used it as eye candy while riding TR. I’ve never been a Zwift racer because there are too many variables that make the field unequal (and that’s making a huge assumption that people aren’t intentionally cheating). Also, I like being able to ride whenever I want to ride. Most of the Zwift goals provide fantastic “carrots” to get you riding more, but being forced to do a workout on a certain day or a group ride at a certain hour just doesn’t work for me.
I’ll miss the beautiful Zwift views, but the real game changer here was that switching to AirPods Pro has allowed me to be able to hear well enough over my Lasko fan to be able to watch Netflix or YouTube while training.
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