My understanding is AI doens’t yet take account of unstructured outside rides. I want to add in a workout that is as close to my chaingang ride as possible in order for AI to be able to adapt my future workouts - what would be the best match? The ride is typically 60k in total, around 1hr40mins al…

Yes that’s usually the format, although some clubs spice it up a bit. You might hear it call called a ‘chainy’ too.

More similar to how a large breakaway would ride. In a team time trial you are usually in a single file with a single rider dropping to the back after a pull. In a chain gang you usually have two files, one fast and one slow where the slow file is up against the wind giving shelter to the fast line. …

I’ve always wondered about this a little bit… Why is there a difference in approach between a TTT and a paceline/chaingang? In my head I’m assuming both have the same ambition (ride the distance at the fastest pace).

I’m not sure I get this - it’s still “work”. Medium or Long Term TR AI will take into account unstructured outside rides. The TR solution as far as I understand it is to match unstructured outside rides to a workout to while they work out how to combine unstructured rides with AI/ Progression Level…

[image] Macy: The TR solution as far as I understand it is to match unstructured outside rides to a workout to while they work out how to combine unstructured rides with AI/ Progression Levels. That contradicts what others have reported as response from support on similar questions: [imag…

[image] jac2689: I’ve always wondered about this a little bit… Why is there a difference in approach between a TTT and a paceline/chaingang? In my head I’m assuming both have the same ambition (ride the distance at the fastest pace). One of the reasons is that chain gang makes more sense wh…

That was a different issue though? That was in the context of the planned rides, rather than matching an unstructured. They were subbing the Sunday sweetspot for longer endurance (as per the notes), rather than simply matching an unstructured ride.

No. The original question that was responded to in that thread was in the context of planned rides, but that answer was taking about unstructured/unplanned rides. [image] Adaptive Training Is Now Out of Beta & Fully Available to All TrainerRoad Athletes! AT simply doesn’t handle any unstructured…

[image] Stuart_Duckworth: 1hr40mins albeit around 1hrish of hard riding with warm up and cool down either side, 160TSS You may want to re-asses your FTP, if you’ve got a warm up and cool down, that’s probably an hour over FTP to get to 160TSS.

Which outside workout matches chaingang?

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That contradicts what others have reported as response from support on similar questions:

Topic		Replies	Views
Chaingang/Paceline/Through & Off - what workouts to get better? Training	9	501	June 19, 2024
Which workout to drop from short power build in favour of outdoor chaingang ride? Training	4	803	June 6, 2019
How to prepare for next years Tuesday night Chaingang/Paceline Training	9	1634	November 28, 2020
Has TR incorporated outdoor group rides into plans yet? Training	33	1969	October 11, 2022
Outside Rides: Structured, Unstructured and DELIBERATE! Training outside-riding	22	2291	May 5, 2021

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