The weather here in Arizona is wonderful during the day but cold in the morning and I can’t find a good solution for where to put a jacket and gloves if I start early. I’ve tried a few things but my jacket is too big for my jersey pockets and even a frame bag I’ve tried.
Arm warmers, wind breaker vest (not jacket). Leg warmers if you really need it. You should be able to easily roll arm warmers and a vest to fit into a standard cycling jersey back pocket.
Where I live, the answer is more thin layers instead of big layers. For example, instead of a big jacket, I’ll wear a base, a SS or LS jersey, and a wind vest. Kind of depends on the weather where you are though.
If you need a wind jacket, get the Patagonia Houdini. Not cycling specific but it’ll break the wind like no other and packs down to the size of a tube.
Not necessarily the solution you’re looking for, but if my jersey pockets are full, I’ve been known to tuck a jacket or vest under the top part of my jersey, below the neck. Looks silly but works fine … only issue on hot days is that you’ll sweat through the jacket, so if you need it for a later descent, you can count on it being wet.
I just use sensible options like the ortleib waterproof ‘saddle bag’ range - small for a rain jacket etc and the large for a full puffy jacket and more
I got the sportful hotpack, looking at the pic the material seems to be the same but the hotpack is cycling specific though the hotpack is not the most aero jacket. I often bring my hotpack with me on daytrips because it is so small and packs so easily but maybe I should get the Houdini too for that
I once got one of those bags (the largest variant) thinking it would be an upgrade from my topeak backloader (also largest) but within a few rides the ortlieb sagged onto my rear wheel. I nearly crashed and the bag was destroyed. Apparently you need a specific strap to hold up the ortlieb, which is sold separately… The topeak comes with a waterproof innerbag, which is very convenient to get out stuff…
Doesn’t matter outside racing. Either you’re training to a target or you are just out enjoying a ride. In these situations minor differences in your average speed due to aero differences are not important.
I own and love a Houdini. I take it with me when traveling because it packs small and light. I don’t like wearing a hoodie while riding though, so if I was going to use one on the bike, I would opt for the no hood version. Patagonia Men's Houdini® Stash 1/2-Zip Windbreaker Pullover
The best bang for the buck are arm and leg warmers. You can put arm warmers underneath a long-sleeved jersey, too. In addition, you could take a gilet or a vest. Arm warmers are super useful even on e. g. flights or so. You haven’t mentioned cold feet, but merino wool socks helped me a bunch to stay comfortable.
Overall, in my experience, the best solution is the one that is slightly too cold in the beginning.
You’re talking about something else I think - I mentioned/recommended the ‘saddle bag’ range which uses one QR bracket for all of them. Small one big enough for just a tube and tools, to the biggest which is 4.1L.
I think you’re talking about the ‘seat pack’
I had the Topeak bikepacking bag with the inner BTW, it wasn’t waterproof and all my sleep kit/clothes were soaked after a day of rain…
I do also have the largest Ortlieb seat pack and have never had any problem with it, certainly never needed another strap