Unbound gravel race recap

Just to add another perspective. Im also prepping for 200+ mile event in june. I did ramp test tues and the event below sat. Then did my SS workout sunday and added 75 mins of Z2 after SS workout. I dont feel that my FTP is set to low. image

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Same power meter that you did the ramp test on?

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Not the same, but not to much difference in them. I use kickr bike inside and have power on other bikes and have found them all to measure similar.

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And?

So you can ride 97% of your FTP for nearly 3 hours? And then do sweet spot work the next day…

And that looks like a 15min warmup with low power, so really that’s saying you did over your FTP for 2.5hrs. That doesn’t seem faulty to you?

Are you guys making sure your head units record 0’s (coasting)?

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I was about to bring this up.

I need to check to see if I’m recording 0s

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Sidenote, I do wonder how the new AT will handle stuff like this. Riding 97% of your FTP for 3hrs is not possible, full stop. Normalized power, average power…best endurance cyclist in the world…doesn’t matter.

So will it discard the ride completely as a data outlier? Will it accept it and put you as a level 10 threshold/sweet spot for all future workouts…which would bury most. Will it suggest a 30w ftp increase? Will it flag it and tell you to check your devices for power discrepancies? Will it cross check your HR data with the power data and modify the ride in some way to still give you credit for the work? Will it recognize that your head unit isn’t reordering zeros and prompt you to change it?

Will be interesting to see what they come up with.

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Just checked, I am recording zeros

https://www8.garmin.com/manuals/webhelp/edge830/EN-US/GUID-5BF2156B-9740-47F1-A564-FA22D55FDEB1.html

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Recording 0’s, didn’t calibrate on sat so probably it. Also curious how AT will handle this sorta stuff, Sorry for thread hijack!

What you guys doing to train for 200 miles? Im following mid volume but usually add a Z2 ride with misses sat and will be adding Z2 on Sundays after workout. Increasing milage on Sundays to 150 a few weeks out from event. Also in gym twice a week, run occasionally and swim for some relaxing recovery. Far from a triathlete though, only run to support CX needs!

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I went though SSHV and now I am on General Build High volume. My goal is 9hours a week to as many hours as I can fit in. Also have a goal of a century 2 times a month and 2 170 mile rides prior to the event. I have 3 races prior to June 5th. Once the weather starts to break Ill start adding gravel rides once a week to dial in tire pressure

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My Garmin says I’m recording zeros.

Putting my dunce cap on for this one…

I likely found the issue for me…a big discrepancy between my Stages and my Kickr Core. I hadn’t done a spin down on my Kickr in at least 3 weeks and I’m pretty sure last time I actually shifted down the cassette to get to 24MPH (which I only remembered doing tonight during the spin down below). This would coincide with the start of a new block and when workouts started really feeling immensely hard for me. I don’t really pay attention to the workout, I just get on and pedal. That approach created the opportunity for this error.

In the middle of my workout tonight, I switched to using my Stages for power instead of the Kickr and 250W immediately felt like outside, whereas 250W from the Kickr felt like a bunch more (like 325 or 350W on the Stages). I immediately paused and calibrated my Stages as I had before starting and then did a spin down of the Kickr. I wasn’t using the same gearing in Erg mode for the spin down as I was for my workouts…spin down in the smaller cogs and workout in the middle of the cassette. After the spin down in the same cog as I workout in, the Stages and Kickr felt the same. I left Power Match on (which I should have been doing to begin with). This would then lead me to believe that yes, my FTP is higher still. I’ll Ramp again on Thursday and report back.

TLDR: I’m a moron who now has a bunch of useless statistical history.

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Don’t think your dumb. This stuff takes a ton of small steps to get right or wrong and then going back and figuring it out.

Will be interesting to see your new ramp.

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Good news is I likely have a higher FTP, bad news is I likely have a higher FTP…(can I get in on the AT Closed Beta now? :slight_smile: )

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Back on equipment…got my DarkSpeedWorks 915D top tube bag tonight in the mail (along with a 483D for more average gravel usage). Pretty dope bags.

And a rad little all metal Garmin Varia 515 mount for tucking it up under my seat.

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That’s the worst thing, can I make it through these new workouts with my big new FTP

Sounds like double good news to me.

Remember, if you go in your calendar and click on each ride you can edit your FTP for each specific ride…so you could at least go in and backdate your FTP for your outside rides a bit so the TSS is more accurate for them.

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Supposed to do 80 on gravel Tomorrow, but it’s feeling like 60 will be all I have in the legs.

Legs are pretty shot from over unders 5x12 monday and vo2 6x5min today. I did 70 miles with 4K of climbing

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Just made a spreadsheet for the rest of my weekend outdoor rides up until June 5th…Road or Gravel, distances and intensities. Glad to have that all planned out, fingers crossed for not too many rain days on the trainer instead. Lots of Z2 miles lined up with a couple organized road centuries and 2 more gravel races (including the Gravel Battle of Sumter Forest this weekend) to spice it up a bit.

Time is flying by.

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88 days

I just got into a 200k gravel race with 13k
Climbing 2 weeks out from unbound. That should be the last big effort for me

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That’s a bunch of climbing…damn. Sounds rad.

I’m aiming at doing a race simulation May 8th, 150mi with 5000’ of climbing (best I can do down here). Gonna have my wife be my crew and try to replicate the big gap between Alma and Council Grove by stopping earlier around 65mi, then going the rest of the way on one water-only stop.

I’m also debating if I want to try and upgrade to Di2 beforehand…