Hi all, I am new to any form of structured training and I have been reading about sweet spot training programs. There is one thing that puzzles me. SS is defined as 84-97% of FTP, and FTP is defined as the power one can sustain during a 1hr time trial. Based on these definitions, shouldn’t it be…

that falls into the category of things that get posted that I don’t understand :man_shrugging:

[image] WindWarrior: IMHO you need to learn to feel where you go from stable to unstable physiology. The tools being discussed simply help inform after the fact. No, I don’t see it that way. Formal testing (= something objective) and verification informed by feel (= subjective) form a feedbac…

Metrics? Advanced features? WKO5 for the win because of graphing, and control over the graphing. That simple. Extended-CP model (GoldenCheetah) and WKO model. They give very similar results (but not always). Formal testing over learning how it feels? Gosh I dunno, IIRC you’ve debated with me abo…

[image] WindWarrior: Formal testing over learning how it feels? Except I did not write over, I wrote and and spoke of a feedback loop. The combination of formal testing and improving your feel that’s key, and superior to either by itself. [image] WindWarrior: Metrics? Advanced features? …

Probably around 30-40 min on a road bike. In a recent 30min time trial, I averaged 315W on my TT bike. I know I couldn’t hold 319W for 60min if my life depended on it, probably max. 310W, which is why I find the 354W NP so amusing, haha.

[image] visa.k: Probably around 30-40 min on a road bike. In a recent 30min time trial, I averaged 315W on my TT bike. I don’t have TT bike experience, but as far as I know you lose a few watts by just being in a less favorable body position on your TT bike, no? Anyone have experience how muc…

Depends on the fit and how often you ride your TT bike. The gap can be closed or eliminated with training.

Only a maniac has IF shown on the screen! :smiley:

I think my FTP is somewhat lower on the TT bike but not much, possibly 5-10W – pushing down on the pedals feels quite the same vs my road bike, but the breathing is slightly harder due to the compromised position. But like mentioned above, it depends on the person and how accustomed they are to the …

[image] OreoCookie: I don’t have TT bike experience, but as far as I know you lose a few watts by just being in a less favorable body position on your TT bike, no? Anyone have experience how much that is? I’m not very good at time trialing. Nor climbing. I used to be able to produce better s…

Trying to understand Sweet Spot

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