I’ve been training 10+ hours per week with high volume consistency for years. For some reason, every time I use the “Check Volume” option on TrainerRoad, it suggests decreasing my volume. I would understand that if there were no consistent pattern or if I were ramping up too quickly, but given my history, why is it doing this? Log In to TrainerRoad
Also, my two long endurance days are set to Dynamic, and TrainerRoad has them maxed out. If it thinks I should be doing fewer total hours, why are those days already at the maximum?
Is there anyone TrainerRoad actually recommends 15+ hours per week for? Surely there are highly trained athletes for whom 15 hours would be considered a low-volume week. Curious if anyone has insight into how this is calculated.
Probably because it has found a path to gains for you that requires less time in the saddle.
Doesn’t look like you have big ftp changes over the years (hard to see by scrolling), perhaps less could be more for you. I’d guess there’s more structured intensity too as you’d have a huge endurance base.
What you’re saying makes sense, but here’s the thing, when I accept this decreased volume, my expected FTP decreases, not increases.
It has only been in the last 8 weeks that I decreased my intensity from 3 days to 2 days as I have been building a large base over the winter. I started a build phase this week and once my body starts adapting to the intensity, I will update it to 3 days again. FTP isn’t going to increase indefinitely. At 4.6w/kg and at age 41, I am happy with a 20w increase over the past year.
Right so what I did was play with the plans adding and removing workouts, changing workout types, adding different sports, changing lengths, and considering fatigue management. This taught me what made things worse, what made things better.
First, I tried six different plans with different volumes first, to find the best “out of the box” four week gains.
In truth, none of my tinkering took the predicted value above the best “out of the box” value, but I learned a lot
i was having the same issue. they helped me thru it on my thread linked^^^. turn off the redlight greenlight feature. go to the plan editor and manually set the days to 6 a week. i went with the masters plan option cause it switches you to 2 days of intensity a week. thats how ive always trained anyways with the 10+ volume. my calendar is still basically all red with a couple yellows but with the feature switched off it doesn’t automatically change the next day to no work out or only like a half hour. its worked out for me for the last week or so.
I’m having a similar problem. I’ve always train five days a week but now when I use the Check Volume function it only recommends three days a week for three hours total.
I don’t know why the system hasn’t adapted.
I started a post about this last week but didn’t get much feedback.
I understand the frustrations but what I don’t see from @TheSwashbuckler or @Kendogz161 is acknowledgment that more time off the bike might be beneficial…and that worries me. The message coming across is “I have always trained like this, how can I keep training like this?” which kind of undermines the benefits of more advanced training analysis doesn’t it?
To be clear, my calendar is also full of red and yellow on a Balanced setting and I want to be doing 12hr weeks but I think it is good advice I’m getting to find more Recovery time and to ramp things up slower than I have historically.
It’s probably that people do not yet trust that the system is making the correct call, which I think is understandable and justified currently, until we get to the point where the system has proven itself and earned that trust from us…
It’s recognition too that the system will be imperfect and that while some of its calls may be very insightful, others may not be so good. It’s tricky therefore to know when to follow its lead and when to use judgement and experience to override it. And this will be a moving target as the model is improved, and also that the optimal balance of follow-the-model vs. selective override may differ for each individual.
The next year should be very interesting as we all gain more of an idea where the system’s strengths and weakness lie, both for us as users and for TR staff working on improving it.
Thanks for the reply. So far when it comes to TR I’m a believer of trusting it and let it do its thing, been working so far. The Volume Check I find confusing because it seems like it’s not taking my history into account. Once the weather gets warmer and the days longer I wanted to added some longer earlier rides using TR as a guide but the fact that Volume Check only wants three days a week I wasn’t sure if there was a bug with that feature.
Also being Time Crunch the few hours I have to train a week are valuable, I don’t want to do less only to have something else take that time.
I do respect the Red/yellow days and have all features on that allow TR to alter the time or workouts.
What is interesting also is that according to AIFTP Prediction I get the most increases on a Balanced Approach training five days a week.
Which is good to know because last year I was on a Demanding Approach five days a week.
