TrainerRoad - Feature Requests of what athletes expect / want in the future

I would like to see the ability to get a plan that includes strength training.

I find that V02 works great for me in erg mode on my Tacx Neo, but I do agree with you about the adjustment increment. I have long said the TR needs to add +10% and -10% to go along with the +1% and -1% buttons.

The long press they have now is like trying to hit the lottery when you let go. Very cumbersome, especially when you’re gassed from interval training.

I guess I have the same wish as @grega . Sometimes I don’t want ERG mode but control the power myself and use resistance mode. And yes I could switch gears but I want to stay chain middle (most smooth/silent/etc) (also think of Zwift cog) and just fine tune with resistance slider. And that sometimes is a bit tricky going from 9 to 27 or so but I have gotten used to it.

Back in the days I thought about developing a companion app / website just for that: Have some web page or app with presets or quick press actions that get send to a web service running on my windows system and the web service would manipulate the TR windows app via send keys etc.

What? Someone thinks they way I do? Hahah. In general it could be much easier to adj. resistance. Either bigger on screen buttons, a +/- 10 or the volume button on phone.

BTW, there is a third party app QZ (qdomyos-zwift). As the name says it’s mostly for zwift.

Cheers.

Yes, I saw QZ sometime ago when thinking about how to make my Tacx Neo support virtual shifting. I guess if that app had a polished and modern simplified UI then it would be much more popular.

I wish there was a place to also set goals within the app.
Yes, I have my spring A and my fall A event, and yes, I have supporting B event(s) but how cool would it be to also say, “I was to be at 280FTP by this date.”

I think the new TR AI could take that info and lay out the plan to make that happen. I could see the AI showing different options when choosing how aggressive the plan is going to be. Like as one slides the curser down the line from least to most aggressive it says “goal reached in 27 weeks” move to most aggressive “goal reached in 16 weeks” kind of thing. Still keep the verbiage about “based on your recent training patters we recommend a less aggressive plan.”

The idea here isn’t to change the adaptive AI but rather to accomplish secondary “feel good” goals alongside ones events. I think this could also be a constantly moving target. As one hit their workouts nail their nutrition and recovery the AI updates the calendar where it’s notated as a green day as the day they’re pacing to hit the goal 280FTP. Conversely as one fails workouts, has poor sleep and maybe even have a sick day or two the green goal day on the calendar gets pushed back.

I just know that sometimes dangling a carrot will make one salivate. and being able to tell my buddies that my FTP is 280 has a bigger wow factor than simply saying I raced a local fondo and finished 82nd out of 350.

Feature suggestion: for us older riders, training is often a battle to just maintain current FTP or even to just slow the decline.

  • in the new FTP prediction feature, add a baseline comparison to show what would happen over the same time if you didn’t do that training plan. e.g. over 12 weeks predicted FTP will stay the same by training, but in the same time period, without training, it would predict a drop of 3%.
  • additional, realistic targets for older riders in the custom plan builder again based around the idea of doing the best you can for your age, which will not be setting ever increasing FTPs as you get older

via the web interface there is a view weight history and view ftp history.

how about showing those rather as lines/graph… then show below the graph the table based records.

a line graph will show trends much easier/faster.

G

With the new AI FTP Prediction, TR could run multiple scenarios:

  • here’s your predicted FTP with your current plan
  • if you change masters to standard, it would be this
  • if you change balanced to moderate, it would be this

…that would be amazing use of AI.

this was already discussed, you can search for Monte Carlo simulation in the forum. Also Nate said something like this is planned in the future to give you the best path through your training. But there are constraints with regard to performance and computational power that need to be considered.

Thanks.

So then the logical follow up feature request would be to connect the trainer to an electric generator to in order to power the monte Carlo simulation.

Obviously the first point is a key part of the release, and the other two you can do yourself on an ad hoc basis, as well as adding/deleting/changing any planned workouts you fancy, to see the effect on predicted FTP.

Good point! Might give that a go.

important bit for me is to say suggested ride for today, suggested for tomorrow and based on these the progression. If I change today I want to see my plan change.

If I miss today I want to see the plan change,

If I change my ftp…

<Outlyer, adding factors in that you are travelling and going to be riding at 300 feet lower or higher… major impact on ftp>, I recently relocated, which resulted in a major knock on my power/endurance level, ended dropping ftp by 10 watt to be able to survive workouts… well it comes with age also :wink:

so many ideas… so … developer ability to produce solid production output thats been rock hardened tested.

G

Not sure exactly where I sit in the new beta. (I got the future AI FTP Prediction, but I’m not in the beta forum.)

But…. I’m wondering if it would be good to add the ability to hide the AI Predicted Difficulty so it doesn’t influence my ratings of workouts.

Doing Truchas -3 this morning after a 3.5% FTP reduction under the new model. 2x20 sweet spot at 92-94% of FTP. The first 10 minutes of work was very difficult as I warmed up, but then RPE was steadily declining for the rest of the workout and I was basically cruising the last 10 minutes of work.

My immediate response was to rate the workout as Moderate, but remembered AI prediction was Hard and brought me back to think about how hard the first bit was.

Might not matter that much in the greater scheme as long as I’m consistent in rating the RPE, but I don’t want to fall into a trap of rating workouts based on how the model thought it should feel. :man_shrugging:

This is exactly why I use the “Chad chart”.

I have a similar question, which is will the AI ever automatically switch you back and forth from the Master’s plans? I’m at the age where I’m on the cusp of wanting a Master’s plan. However, some weeks I have no problem doing three intense rides per week and others I really want that 2 intense days, but I don’t really know it until I start it.

Is the AI ever going to be able to adjust to that or will it always be something I need to do myself by manually taking an intense day to an endurance day? I’d really like for it to be able to predict how many intense rides I can do per week.

So they have two features already (which perform better in the new updates) that determine how many intense rides you should be doing (the “check volume” feature) and if today you can handle an intense workout (Red Light/Green Light).

If you’re on the fence, I would create a plan with two intense days (Master’s Plan) and add another day of intensity as you can fit it in. That way your plan is going to progress you correctly on the weeks that you don’t do 3 intendse workouts.

I utilize the check volume often. I guess what I’m saying is that if I select a Master’s plan, I’d like it to be able to dynamically add an intense day for me. I can add one manually, but I don’t really know what the best kind of workout to add would be or whether it fits with the current plan.

I’ve had it reduce an intense workout when I’ve done several hard ones, but I feel like it lets me get to the point of too much fatigue before it changes an intense ride to an endurance one. That’s not a knock on the AI, it’s me, for sure, and aging.

If you go to the Train Now section, whatever workout is listed first is the one that TR feels is best for you right that minute (it might change from morning to night as more time has passed some your last workout). So if you see an intense ride shown, then it feels that you can handle that right now. It still might trigger adaptations afterwards though.