If fatigue detection is off in settings, then it is off in that it will not adjust your up coming workouts. If it is one then it will adjust up coming workouts but should give you option to switch back.
If the days are just yellow or red and not editing them, then that is what it is and there is no going back on that it is just part of the new system.
I too have always trusted the system
BUT now being told my FTP prediction my FTP will go down I am questioning why I would want to trust a workout program/plan that leads to lower FTP
Adjust the training approach sliders.
Also FTP isn’t the only factor in fitness.
Thank you
How do you do that on the TR app please?
Can someone comment on what would be the difference in the impact on the AI plan/detection in the following two scenarios?
I think a lot of the chagrin would be gone if we had ai detected and predicted 20 and 60 minute power.
in the calendar there should be something like balanced in the upper right corner, click that it opens the training approach sliders.
Not only are they still there you can do it by zone now.
Click calendar. On the top of the screen you should see your ftp, weight, w/kg, and a word like “custom” or “balanced”. Click that. Click view current approach. Click edit.
You’re moving the goalposts.
Also, as a senior software engineer, I would think you’d say “having the ability to view and edit your current plan always visible on the top of the calendar” is pretty intuitive.
Some of these posts are building whole new stadiums.
RLGL is now always on in that it will show red and yellow days on your calendar. While this may be visually annoying at times this doesn’t change any functionality.
If you go into settings you can turn off fatigue detection which will stop it from modifying future workouts based on fatigue detection.
It still is, you can lock any workout in place at anytime and just do stuff manually if you want.
If you don’t want that then the new stuff is how it works. TR doesn’t need to get left back as other platforms progress for the minority.
People are focusing on things they can bitch about, you aren’t seeing dozens of OMG I love this specific feature posts because it works how they want it, no one things to make a post about it. So yeah it looks like you are the majority but that isn’t the case.
as for the UI, been using this for 2 months now I don’t find it distracting at all. It is providing feedback that I may not think about myself and a day showing yellow changes nothing if I don’t want it to.
They have been getting feedback for months.
I’m in exactly the same boat.
In the middle of a plan, using a platform I thought was giving me accurate FTP estimates, unable to find the correct parameters to continue my plan and actually achieve an FTP increase. If I wanted to decrease my FTP or have it steady, I would not need TrainerRoad as a product.
This update forced me already to spend significantly more time reading about TrainerRoad internals than I ever intended to, yet I’m no closer to getting/continuing a training plan that just yesterday was going to make me faster.
It is immensely frustrating how this was rolled out, and I would personally love to stick to the old system and gradually adopt AI features at my own pace.
Impossible to answer without knowing what changes have happened to your FTP.
Forget the PLs - what wattages/intervals were you nailing and what is the AI suggesting for you?
If you were doing 4 × 10 at 200 watts before and you’re being presented with, say, 4 × 12 at 195 watts now … it’s all good, right?
They are, was just pointing out since you seemed to think they didn’t get feedback that they did.
They also aren’t undoing this.
So you want nothing to change but at the same time want to provide feedback that will lead to change?
As someone who spent decades leading large product development teams, I can’t imagine a user base that wants no change or developers who want everything to stay exactly as it was. I get you don’t like having to learn a few new things to click, but I mean, it’s not the end of the world to adjust your plan by going into your plan to adjust it, especially when it’s easily findable at the top of the page at all times. I would argue it’s FAR more intuitive than the old way.
As for RLGL, I understand you don’t like seeing red and yellow on your calendar, but that’s all it is once you’ve turned off the functionality. You’ve been told how to turn off the AI so that it doesn’t impact your plan. It’s just visual colors on the calendar at that point. The vast majority of users find value in the RLGL functionality, so expecting TR to cater to a small minority when it doesn’t impact the plan in any way doesn’t make much sense, and would lead to every single end user wanting something developed specifically to the way they personally want to use the tool. “I don’t like red and yellow, I want mine to be blue and pink!”.
Personally, I would be appalled if TR took my money and never delivered anything new. In fact, I had not subscribed for a few years because the new things coming out weren’t valuable to me. I re-subscribed because I love what they have done here.
I did Abney 0.9, 3x9min with 3min 80@, 1min rest, 3min 85%, 1min rest, 3min 90%, 5min rest.
Its suggesting I do 2x20min 92%. Nothing even close to what I have been doing for the last 6 weeks. I do have a history of solid fitness and volume (500TSS, 9-11hr weeks), but given my last 2 months especially, 4hr avg week, 250-300TSS maintenance with SS, then the health stuff happened and went to 20-30min rides of 40-50% for a while, building to 60-65% for 1h solid now for the last 3 weeks, first SS workout last week went well. All that suffice to say there is no training history there to suggest I would be ready to jump to such a hard workout.