And the workouts aren’t randomly picked. The system is choosing the workout that are designed to produce the best results for your chosen plan. If you don’t want them to change/adjust (which I don’t understand but that’s what you said), you “pin” the workouts and they won’t adapt.
hope that helps
I know they aren’t that is not the point. I do not like having it change stuff that I plan to do. I want a set plan that I can stick too. I have been using trainneroad for 12 years and this feature doesn’t work for me. I hate it honestly I understand it may think it knows what is best. What does PIN workouts mean i want to look at the specialty phase i pick and see all the speciifc workouts and stick to that plan. I don’t want it to change from what i chose. You have to understand everyone is not the same not to mention it is slow as well showing me changes. I just don’t like it at all. I had cancelled my subscriptions but will go another month since it ends tomorrow to see if they have an option to OPT completely out of it.
If you add a workout from the library, it won’t change it by default. Only "AI workouts” will adjust based on performance. You can tell a workout is an AI one by the green sparkle icon on the calendar.
Any AI workout can be prevented from changing by “pinning” it. Depends on the platform, but on web, you can right click a workout and choose pin. For mobile, click on a workout and look for the pin icon in the bottom left.
Both fatigue detection and prediction can be turned off, but not the AI as a whole, but at that point, if you’re going to disable every core feature of the product, you may want to consider alternatives.
First, you said random. Just saying.
See “pin” on the screen.
Third, they are not going to have an opt out choice. They’ve already said that
Fourth, I’m just trying to help. A little less aggressive tone would be nice.
Lastly, I’d encourage you to read the TR blogs and FAQs and watch the TR podcasts. Everything I’ve mentioned here has been covered multiple times.
Good luck k.
Thanks sorry first time i have been to these blogs I opened a ticket I thought, a week ago didn’t get answer and just looking for an answer. Just trying to figure out how to get this back to what it was before all these changes. I don’t know who works for TR and who doesn’t I just want them to know that this change isn’t well recieved by eveyone, because I would like to stay before finding alternatives. THe AI has been giving me the same over under workout every Saturday for almost 10 weeks across two different training blocks just frustrating. I really just want to repeat old previous year workouts with my current FTP without having to do it manually
Thats helpful context.
I don’t work for trainerroad btw, but their staff are pretty active here so they’ll probably see your feedback at some point.
Now do I understand you correctly that you’ve been prescribed an identical threshold workout for 10 weeks in a row? It’s very likely something is wrong if that’s the case, and that would be something for support to take a look at.
TR moved away from static plans around 5 years ago, but if you’re trying to repeat last year, you might be able to use the “copy week” button on the web version. It’s in the “quick actions” drop down on the right side of the calendar. I haven’t tested that on past events, and it’d take a few clicks, but could easier than scheduling every workout if it works.
If you or TR can figure out that repeating workout thing, it might be worth giving the AI another go too. I find that after a little bit of training, as long as I follow the plan, the workouts aren’t changing around after every ride. The progression is pretty dialed in.
I’ll bet good money that we’re looking at the period btwn end of simulation window and end of plan and we’re looking at workout placeholders, not actual workouts.
I realise everyone is different, but still, I’d be asking myself the question:
“Do I want to get faster, or do I want to follow an off-the-shelf, fixed, unchanging plan that’s unresponsive to my changing fitness and fatigue levels because that better fits my “sense of order” that I like to see”.
I’m not trying to sound difficult here, but would you really prefer the latter at the expense of getting fitter and stronger? Honestly? If so, there’s cheaper ways of doing that than paying for TR.
Maybe there’s just a learning curve to overcome with this new TR system, that then makes the former choice the easy one to make… 
Two other things.
- it really helps if you either make your calander public and share it or post screenshots of you calendar. Two or three or four weeks. That way people here, most of whom a just other TR users, can help you.
I think the “same workout 10 weeks in a row” is a a change where TR puts place holders for types of workouts more than 28 days out.
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to try to get a TR person to see your post tag them; @Caro.Gomez-Villafane @eddie @SeanHurley . Also sounds like you’ve opened a support ticket so that’s good. The TR people here are amazing but they can’t respond to everything.
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they are very aware of the small number of users who are having problems/issues/concerns. For the vast majority of that minority, their is a misunderstanding the new system and what it is doing. Again I’d encourage you to listen to the podcasts when they launched the product.
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a core forum rule is “be excellent to each other” TR pays for this forum, and allows anyone to be one it. They allow criticism and want feedback. Just be nice in doing it!
Cheers
Fyi - there are no more “static plans”, which would be a traditional off the shelf kind of plan where the coach assigns every single athlete the exact same “General Base (low/mid/high) volume” plan. You CAN still go select to use (for example) a General Base Mid Volume plan, but that will only be picking the structure, not the workouts. The plans now contain placeholders, not specific workouts. See below.
See how it just says SS or Endurance, but not a specific workout?
Now, once you choose that plan, it will assign it to your calendar and the AI will assign actual workouts to fill in those placeholders for a few weeks, but further into the future, you’ll still see placeholders. Once the real workouts are assigned, if you don’t want the AI to look at your performance and fatigue and assign different workouts, you can go into each individual workout and “pin” them which will make them static. example below
Hope that helps. Also a user, not an employee.
I am experiencing predicted FTP drops every time I complete a prescribed workout. Is anyone else having this experience? I am finding the workouts to be moderate or easy. I missed one 60 minute endurance ride this month and my predicted FTP has dropped 12 watts. This morning I completed the prescribed 90 minute over under workout and returned home to a -2 watt predicted FTP.
Hi! Please provide either a link to your TR calendar (making it public first if necessary) or screenshots of your last 4 weeks and next 4 weeks of training.
Otherwise we have nothing to go on.
Sorry to insert myself, but trying to “hide” this and I’m not seeing a way to hide it. Feel like an idiot but just not seeing it so figured I’d ask….
Was this in the app, in the browser? In either case, hate to ask, but where exactly is this tiny pencil?
Don’t so much mind having AI in the background (or even foreground), just don’t want to see the ftp changes and not understand the “why” explanation. If I want that, I’d look at my Garmin. 
TIA
Chris
Go to your calendar. Find your next FTP Prediction. Click on it. You’ll see the pencil.
Thanks a ton! It’s off for now.
Seeing if it would be worth my time to sign up for TR again. I have a 60 mile event that is MTB but mostly gravel. Its in the end of June. I have a 1 year old so my training time is limited. Right now I get 1hr on Tuesday and 1hr on Friday/Saturday. I am going to continue with that schedule and try to fit in 1 longer ride in the 4 hour range a month. Any other time I have is easy riding which isn’t much time. My FTP is just over 200 and am basically just doing a combo of VO2 and Threshold to up FTP. Would TR help me here or should I just stay the course. My main question is would TR be able to plan for this event on 2 workouts a week.
It will give you hard workouts that will get you fitter. But any system is going to struggle with 2 hours a week. I’d imagine though it will get the best out of you in those two hours.
Something is WAY off if your VO2 9.0 and 128 TSS workout was Easy, which means it was only a bit more than a recovery ride. I’d contact TR Support.