TR Running Thread 2021

Is there a reason why my runs dont sync to Trainerroad. Rides automatically go from Garmin Connect to TR so you can add the TSS, but running work outs dont.

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Yes, TrainerRoad does not process anything that is not a ride.

Add your voice to this thread, they say the more people requesting a feature influences whether they work on it:

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I have done now 10weeks base training with BarryP method. Only easy&slow running 6x per week (no strides, no tempo). Today morning i ran 5k TT and end up PR 19:35! Next week i will start 12week half marathon plan with goal sub 90min. This week was last week (rest week 8) of Sustained Power Build. I´m not sure what kind of bike training i should do during HM training so that i would not loose all cycling fitness, but reach max result in running?

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If you want better running… You need to keep your legs fresh for the workouts… For a sub 90, you need a sub 7 pace. That’s a big jump from a 19 min 5k.

My recommendation is endurance/tempo rides… No vo2max…

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And a whole lot more endurance at that tempo. My personal (n=1) experience is that attempting important development in running endurance at the same time as a TR plan doesn’t work. Your mileage may vary.

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There is people that can do it… But I would recommend against it… Take you will lose some bike fitness but it will mostly be top end… You will get it back in a few weeks after you start training bike specific again…

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Yes, I think i put all my effort to running but as my run mileage is not so high i might do some z2 rides for aerobic volume.

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Shoe Question:

I’m tied to the Nike brand this season, thinking of getting the React Miler (40% off at the moment) for my easy/long runs, and probably the Pegasus for quality sessions.

Thoughts?

I had the Structure and two Pegasus last year, I relegated the Structure to the treadmill so they’re hardly used but took them outside this week and they feel a bit harsh. I ended up always using the Peg 36s.

The NEW pegasus is not a great quality session shoe…
Its way too soft…

The question I have for you…
Why are you tied to Nike?
Sponsorship?

if not… eff Nike.
Go with Adidas/Reebok!

Adidas Boston for Quality
Adidas Adios for race
Reebok Float Ride Energy for everyday - This is probably one of the longest lasting shoes money can buy… its a steal at $100!! I have a v1 and v2. The v1 I retired at 900 miles. v2 has 500+ and not showing signs of wear! There a v3 now available.

Why ‘eff Nike’?
I for one like my Nikes… I primarily use Pegasus for tempo or faster. My favorites were Turbo 35’s, skipped the 36’s (or Turbo 2) as I had a few pairs of the 35’s, and now currently use the 37’s… Which I like but def not as much as the Turbo 35’s. My only issue is the heal cup. If I don’t get the tie down just right I feel slight slippage.

I’m also quite fond of the Brooks Levitate 4. Also good for daily to tempo, or even faster… Not too heavy or too soft but just the right amount of responsiveness.

I’ve only tried the Adidas Boston 9… Although the lightest shoes I’ve tried I’m not quite sure they have enough cushion for me.

I have some Adidas gear coming to me so I will have plenty of opportunity to give them a proper run (pun intended).

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There are thousands of shoes available, to reduce procrastination and because I tend to like them, I’m using Nike this season. I am impressed with the Pegasus, but not the Structure. The React Miler will be an experiment but the few reviews I can find are encouraging.

I’m looking for opinions on those models or any alternatives I’ve missed.

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I have used Nike in the past. I used structure for a few years when I started running.

IMO, nike was stale in running shoes technology for years. They didn’t had a shoe I liked. Then the pegasus 35, 36 came out. They were great. The turbos were excellent, but way too expensive. The 4% and next% were also great but again, way too expensive.

Sadly, many people didn’t discovered the wonders of the adidas supernova glide 7 and 8. Specially the 8. That was the perfect shoe. If you had only one shoe, that would probably be it. It had absolutely everything. It was discontinued in 2017 and since then I’ve looked for a similar experience. The pegasus were close, until the change to react for 37.

2 years ago i discovered the Reebok floatride energy. And this is the spiritual successor of the supernova. Another almost perfect shoe. You can do almost anything with it. Speed sessions and long runs. And to boot they are only 100! Which is insane for a shoe like that! Nike would sell the same shoe for $200! It’s a shoe that will last over 800 miles easy …

Nike has the market, but I always encourage people to think beyond Nike.

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Long course triathlon was when I took shoes more seriously, Asics GT 2000 did well for my long slow running, their trail shoes were okay but the Salomon Speedcross was excellent. Back to roads I liked the Nike Lunarglide then I tried Adidas Boost and variety of relatively cheap shoes but then I managed to get a bunch of Nikes really cheap in their sales last summer and was impressed with the Pegasus. I got the 4% as well, and from my trials at the track everything they said was true - so those are saved for race day.

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The pegasus changed to a much softer foam for 2020 version… It changed the shoe completely. It’s like a different shoe. So if you had a pegasus 36 and love it (like i did) you may not like the 37/38. They are fine shoes, but for the price, there are better shoes out there…

I always try to rotate from shoe and shoe brands. I try not the be exclusive of one brand… Although I tend to gravitate to adidas :man_shrugging:

Currently my rotation is floatride for long/easy runs, Boston for workouts and adios for race pace runs.

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Ah all the bargains I was after have disappeared while I procrastinated! :sweat_smile:

With three shoes in rotations maybe I don’t need new ones yet anyway, I’ll give them a wash and reassess!

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I mostly agree with this… My first pare of running shoes where Nike Free’s about 10 years ago… I discovered Brooks after and stuck with Ghosts for several years. They just worked and worked well for me.

Throughout the years Nike just kept getting more and more expensive and seem to focus on lifestyle/aesthetics vs function. It wasn’t until I found a pair of Turbos on sale that I gave them a try… They immediately became my mainstay… Bought multiple pairs (on sale) followed by 4%, NEXT% and AlphaFly’s… With the later being used for racing only.

The racing shoes are expensive but worth it IMO… The others are more or less no different that most other daily trainers. e.g. Pegasus $120 vs Brooks Ghosts $130 vs Brooks Levitates $150… All of which I can get 400-500 miles from so for me they are all worth cost.

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Now imagine a shoe as good, but it cost $100 and last 800 plus miles… That’s the Reebok floatride

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I just ordered the Reebok Running Floatride Energy 3.0, cost me…£45 :smiley:

Was tempted to buy two pairs, but also bought some Nike React Milers to hedge by bet.

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I like my Nike’s too and have gone through quite a few of the Pegasus versions (and others) - - the regular 35’s were my favourite. I’ve got a couple runs in with the 37’s and they’re feeling pretty sluggish so far.

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While it makes practical sense to go for the less expensive shoe that gives you more miles I suppose I’m happy to make the trade for the aesthetics.

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