Nice review man and makes me want to try the bike right now but let me ask you something, what do you mean by harsh behind? Uncomfortable?
Uncomfortable is to negative. Less comfortable compared to the SL6 I ride, is a better way to say it. Even though I must say that the road we were on is never a pleasure to ride when we ride there. I did not check the tire pressure… could be the 60 mm rim compared to the 50. That’s the long term which will give a better understanding. But I am not scared to take it with me for the long rides! Looking forward owning one…
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Hot or not? I’m trying to convince myself I dont have enough time for a road bike. I will usually ride mountain or gravel. However if I start riding with groups or friends again, neither of those will cut it. Besides this expert my other idea was getting a pair of the Rapides and throwing them on my Quincy, the gear jumps are big and the bars are flared it might be goofy.
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Wait, is that Camden?
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It looks to be from Camden Cycle’s insta, so yes it’s Camden. I bought my TCR from those guys! Great shop.
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Yes it is. My bike on Morton Park Road Bridge
Je voudrais des photos au soleil de cette couleur. Merci
Does anyone know if there will be a zero-offset-seatpost option for the SL7?
Yes there will be! Need one as well.
Will the Venge Clip-On bars fit on this cockpit? Or is this exclusive to the 2019/2020 Venge?
It says “only for Venge 2019”, but they share the same cockpit?
The venge has a different stem and if memory serves this attaches at the stem
They’ll allow you to upgrade, the question is how many parts you need to replace to do the upgrade, what that’s going to cost you, and whether an extra gear is worth that cost to you. Based on SRAM 12 speed and previous Shimano releases, I would guess that you’d likely have to replace shifters, derailleurs, chain, cassette and freehub.
Difficult to see how a 12th gear offers enough benefit to justify upgrading a drivetrain that is only 1 year old, unless you really wanted to take advantage of a 10-tooth cog to move to 1x (assuming Shimano release a cassette with a 10 tooth), in which case you’d be paying for a new crankset as well. In which case your safest bet would just be to buy the 1x12 SRAM Force version that is already being offered.
Also worth noting that Shimano will likely only offer 12 speed on Dura Ace initially, with Ultegra following suit a year or so later. So if you’re looking at Ultegra you’ve probably got at least 2 years until you’re “old”.
If you don’t want to go 1x and just don’t like the thought of being on 11 speed when the latest bikes are 12 speed then your options are:
- Buy a SRAM 12 speed build now (2x12 Red, 1x12 Force, or frameset built up with 2x12 Force)
- Wait maybe 1 year for 12 speed Dura Ace to be offered on manufacturer bike builds
- Wait maybe 2 years for 12 speed Ultegra to be offered
- Resign yourself to spending $$$ replacing a perfectly good groupset with one offering an extra gear that you don’t need. And hope that in the next 2 years bike companies don’t come up with any other new technologies designed primarily at making cyclists feel like they have to upgrade…
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Wow man you already thought about it as well or you really know everything that’s on the market and the way to ‘improve’ your bike.
The sram one, pro version, I only like the frame, a very nice one for me at least but the 1x… no way.
If I had money or I wanted it to spend it on a bike I would really go for the sworks sram one, the black green or whatever, it’s so nice.
Was a thought because if you gonna get a new bike and you are willing to pay I don’t know 6-7k or even more you want something that’s your bike, that you gonna ride for some years 2-3 even more (wouldn’t be that weird) And be happy about it, if in a year or 2 you see something that’s a big upgrade of your bike it’s like ok… not really a need for 1 extra gear and not worth it at all if you have to do everything you have said there.
Thanks for your message 
I’m a Shimano fan boy and I’m fully invested in them on the road bike side of things.
That being said, I think 12 speed is “introduced” next year.
On top of a high release date price, they have a terrible track record for having every part of the group set available at launch.
So not only would you waste a year waiting on 12 speed (when you could be enjoying your bike), you could very well been in a situation where you have most of the groupset but have to wait an additional 3-4 months for a derailleur or shifter.
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There’s always something new around the corner!
Other than 12 speed I’m struggling right now to see what kind of innovations there will be in the next couple of years that are as tangible as some of the innovations which have become mainstream in the last 5 years such as disc brakes, tubeless wheels, internally cabled front ends, lightweight aero bikes (or aero lightweight bikes…) but I’m sure the bike industry will come up with some. Maybe Shimano wireless? Or persuade the UCI to drop the weight limit so that they can start offering 5.5kg climber bikes? New tubeless standard which all the wheel and tyre makers sign up to? They’ll certainly continue to claim that every new release is stiffer/more compliant/more aero than the previous which may be barely noticeable from one year to the next but over ~3 years starts to add up.
Yh you are right about it and everything we live with it’s being updated every year I mean for example mobile phones, laptops or whatever you see around.
The main thing or problem is that is it worth it to spend around 6-7k for a bike knowing in a few gonna b something new released or it’s better to wait for a bit for those new things to pop out?
If you come from an sl6 I would wait, definitely, but if you come from something older and I mean older, is it the right time for the update knowing or expecting to have that new bike for at least 3-4 years?
Pet peeve - 12 speeds is not “innovation”. 12 speeds would be “evolution”.
Innovation is groundbreaking new products and concepts…STI, clipless pedals, aerobars, electronic shifting…developments that cause wholesale behavioral shifts.
“Innovation” is such an overused word that we are losing sight of what true innovation is when it comes along.
{steps down form soapbox}
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However long you wait there’ll always be something new coming so you might never get a new bike! I think you just pick a point to upgrade that suits you, then go for it and don’t look back. My upgrade cycle is about 5 years, which is long enough for there to be a tangible package of improvements, but not so long that I feel I’m giving up significant speed.
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Without going too far down the “consumerism” rabbit hole…
Simply evaluate if the current product meets your budget, needs, goals, etc.
- If it does, buy it if you want it and be happy that you have what you have.
- If it doesn’t, shop around for other options, or wait for something else that suits your requirements better.
There is no point in lamenting the unknown or potential future, especially if the current state suits you. The “but what about the next one?” dilemma is an unfortunate sign that we are seldom satisfied in consumer life, especially when our “current state” becomes the “old state”. It’s unnecessary and a bit disturbing when I think about it a bit.
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Note: I say this as a rampant consumer and buyer in potential reform. I’ve begun questioning my past and future purchases with a new eye, partly inspired by the present state of the world and a mid-life crisis or whatever I seem to be experiencing.
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First new bikes are never “worth” it. A local hot shot can drop everyone else on a 15-20 year bike with 10 speed gears and 23mm tires. Bike technology doesn’t make that much difference for most of us.
Most of us just want a nice new bike. You buy an SL7 today and you can easily ride it for 10+ years unless you crash it or break it. And even then, you can repair it.
When you buy today you get some aero, aero wheels and the latest groupset. We may have 12 or 13 speeds as standard in a few years but it’s not going to make anyone that faster. Specialized will say that the new bike rides a 40k TT 20 seconds faster or whatever. It doesn’t matter.
Buy a new bike when you get tired of the old one.
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