I’ll take a look for sure, and appreciate the suggestion.
The point is, in my case I don’t think the flexibility itself is the crucial topic, even though it is for sure an excellent addition.
The required attention, the stand up feeling, changing gear, power targets, it’ll be similar to the real road for sure. I’ll read and watch something and put some thought on it.
Even a possible honeymoon with the rollers would be great, I just need them for 3 to 4 months anyways heheheh
I would recommend the Kreitler rollers with the 2.25” drums before using a resistance unit….it is pretty close to a “road feel” in terms of gearing. The resistance progresses pretty normally as you go up in gearing.
Just checked and they are having a Black Friday sale……free shipping to Canada, too.
First ride on them (Elite Quick Motion)
It was challenging at the beginning, but after a few minutes everything was under control. Sipping water, one hand, etc. I need to improve the stand up pedaling though.
The feeling is way better, no saddle soreness and the time went by very quick. Happy with the change.
what was your source of power?
Assioma pedals
Some observations from someone who sold a Tacx Neo 2T and switched to a cheap set of rollers (Tacx Antares) to see how they would do:
Position is really interesting. With a wheel-off trainer, you THINK you are riding the same position as outdoors, but you can get away with just about anything, just keep mashing the pedals. On the rollers, you have to maintain a balanced position or you will have serious trouble. The first ride I went on outdoors after riding the rollers was kinda shocking - my balance and ability to ride the bike through the bottom bracket had increased quickly
Having a set of rollers like the Tru Trainer with a flywheel would be really nice. Having a little help just like you would outdoors when taking a drink or scratching your ear or whatever would be really nice.
IDK about ya’ll, but I definitely have a favorite bike. Being able to pop your favorite bike on and off your indoor training setup without undoing axles is really nice. Even with the proper torque and grease, those threads have a limited number of times they can be screwed in and out before failure (like all screw threads)
Rollers are initially more exhausting than a wheel-off trainer. For me, it was due to increased muscle tension and nervousness through my torso and arms/neck. After a couple of weeks, that is going down quickly, and it feels more natural and relaxed.
I’ll add my thoughts too. I rode a Kickr Core the past 5 years, picked up rollers last year just to add some balance training, but have done all my training on them this year.
My body is more comfortable on rollers. I pieced together a cheap bike for the trainer for convenience, but had to run a decent bit higher stack and shorter stem to stay comfy. I can ride my outdoor bike on rollers for 1-1.5 hours including a lot of forearm parallel position without discomfort.
When I decided to use rollers for structured training this year, I planned to use them for most workouts, but go back to the fixed trainer for high intensity stuff. Now I love them for everything, I find high intensity stuff to be even more easy to stay centered than sweet spot or z2.
After riding back outdoors, I find my pedal stroke to be smoother, and my shoulders and elbows stay more relaxed. I also feel lighter on my hands. Seems that rollers have forced me to learn proper body positioning and balance.
Adding linear bearings for fore/aft movement has improved the feel a lot for me, I went back to fixed for a ride and it was hard to adjust back. I also added roller blade wheels to the 4 corners and even though I’ve only grazed one of them once, it helps my confidence and let’s me not hyper focus on staying centered.
Thanks to this topic I sold my Elite and bought an Elite Motion, and it was one of the best decisions bise-wise I’ve ever made.
I can ride now for 2 to 3 hours. The movement, the focus to be riding, changing gears, it’s all so much more engaging. I don’t feel saddle soreness, pedaling stood up is natural, don’t see any drawback.
This particular set of rollers has resistance levels, so I can put 800w in sprints (seated of course). Vo2max is excellent, pedaling technique, and more cadence work. Plus, as said, you just use your bike without hassle. When finished, slide it under the bed and done.
When using classic rollers with a riding app like TrainerRoad, what virtual power setting do you select in the app? I have TruTrainer Classic rollers. One of the many benefits I’ve found with these is that the TruTrainer website has a power curve which I can use in calibrating my app. I connect to the app using a Wahoo Speed sensor, and I’ve found that the power curve of the app’s Tacx Bluemotion Level 4 virtual power setting is very close to that of the TruTrainer, Of course nowhere near as accurate as having a power meter mounted on the bike, but I figure I’m within 10%, which is fine for my needs; in any case, it’s consistent enough for me to monitor my progress. I occasionally fine-tune my setting with a spindown test I record using the Wahoo Fitness app, the results of which I compare to the spindown curve provided on the TruTrainer website.
I would be very tempted to try rollers. I was using a Kickr Snap, but went back to using a dumb trainer and prefer that. I gave the Snap to my GF and she seems to like it (in her case, training her to keep her cadence up 
). My biggest, but not stresed out, concern would be wear and tear on my good bike, but i could just use my lower concern bikes.
I’m mostly an outdoors training person.
I haven’t noticed any extra wear when using rollers compared to my wheel on dumb trainer.
Honestly, I would look to pick up a cheap 4iiii PM given how reasonable there are now. Will give you the confidence you want in training.
I started noticing some wear on my tires - elite motion rollers.
I don’t know if that was related to the roller’s material, or what. Anyway, I wanted to have a pair of cheap wheels for daily training, so I pulled the trigger before winter so that I could save my GP5k.
I’ve been thinking about this thread after doing my workouts outside. Doing them outside is so much more mentally engaging and time seems to fly by, even doing 30-60 minutes threshold. But which one, a simple Tacx or one the Elite’s of which I have a hard time understanding what the addded features bring. Could I use the tacx for eg zwift if I have a pm and speed sensor?
I started with a tacx, but depending on your FTP you won’t be able to do some workouts because tacx has no resistance. there are some flywheel type resistances you are supposed to be able to add, but I ended up getting a inside ride on marketplace and never looked back, awesome roller, adjustable resistance. I don’t use the smart feature, I prefer to shift and use my quarq as the power source for TR so I think a insideride with manual resistance would be more than good for me, that’s what I’d recommend.
275’ish but I have very small chain rings, 43/34 iirc with 25-10 cassette. I occasionally spin out on “descents” or tailwind during workouts outside
I have a 212 ftp and a 46/10 and wasn’t able to do anything over sweet spot unless I kept a 100 or over cadence, at the time I was rolling on my grave bike with speedero, so assuming slicks it’s going to be a bigger problem
I have the Quick Motions in the cart right now with the sale, but the Kickr Rollrs are tempting. Anyone have experience with the kicker rollers?
