I’ve definitely seen this in my extended friend group in the past 6 months. I’m 25 so most of my friends are recent college grads who were active but would either go to the gym, go on a run, or play pickup basketball or something, but they weren’t recording it anywhere. Since March maybe 25 of them joined Strava and I’d say around 10 of them use it regularly and are editing run names and liking my rides (so they aren’t just blindly linked but are actively using the app). Then maybe 5 of those are paid. So if they can get most of those active users to stick around then that’s probably pretty valuable for their business.
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maybe I don’t have to pay anymore ? 
What are they doing? - I’m afarid some super pc will be put to work on my attention… if showing ME → MY data for 8$ a month is bad business, I’m afarid their businessmodel is screwed.
Trainerroad please just take over :D!
Good for them. That’s higher than I would have thought given that Zwift just received funding at around $1B.
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Fantastic.
Maybe now they can afford to automatically fix power spikes, it’s only been, well since they began…
They probably need to raise a further 100mil, it’s obviously a very complex equation 
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I asked for higher rate limits for Intervals.icu this morning and received this automated reply immediately:
Dear Developer,
This is an automatic response to your Strava API rate limit request. At this time, we are not granting requests for rate limit increases. Apologies for any inconvenience this may cause.
Thank you for your understanding.
Best,
Strava API Support Team
This will kill off any Strava app with a growing user-base and no-one will write new ones now.
Intervals.icu probably only has a couple of months before I will have to stop accepting users. So I am fast-tracking separating from Stava and supporting manual .fit file upload + drop box + Garmin Connect integration. Hopefully I can persuade a lot of users to switch to Garmin Connect.
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Have you run across Tapiriik? (It’s what I use to sync TR/Strava/Dropbox/Runkeeper.)
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Totally understand where you’re coming from, but a decent amount of us aren’t in the Garmin ecosystem. Hopefully there’s a way to get things automatically from elsewhere
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Please don’t forget the Wahoo users!
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That looks useful tx. Will definitely have a look.
@firemunki and @trpnhntr the Wahoo cloud API isn’t available yet. When it is I will have a look. But it probably makes sense for me to integrate with Tapiriik which will hopefully also have Wahoo support at some point.
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I would happily switch to Garmin connect.
That’ll be awesome! Especially since Strava seems to be getting harder for devs to use.
No problem if you switch to Garmin Connect. Would switch right away…
I really appreciate your work and love intervals.icu. The uncertain Strava API future is one of the reasons why I never made a connection from Zwifthub to Strava for automated tracking…
Manual file upload, whilst more work for the user, sounds like a good alternative to me. Garmin Connect is not really something I consider instead. I mean it will work for the moment but who knows what the future will bring for Garmin Connect.
In the bigger picture, I don’t understand why Strava is not integrating intervals.icu or is copying the metrics / ride evaluations. Those would be functions a lot of users would be happy to pay for and get a premium account.
I’m always tempted by strava premium but get all I need from the free version.
I miss being able to create routes but I now do it on garmin connect instead.
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It’s sad that we are coming to a point where “keep local files for all your workouts, and upload them everywhere” is required to interoperate between sites.
I haven’t kept a proper local archive, so now I need to go and recreate a local copy of everything, which will be painful.
I was fortunate to start using TrainingPeaks from the beginning, and simply download an annual zip file with all uploaded data.
Just download it all from Strava lol. It’s like two clicks
Yes, but with filenames that don’t match the ride names. You get it ‘all’, but not in a format that is straightforward to use directly or import to another service. Not being able to find rides by names going back years is a big pain.
That’s why I just hope Strava improves. I am grateful that they have been a device independent platform that stores my data coming from different devices in different formats for almost ten years. I’m happy to pay premium and just wish they would improve their calendar and the analysis.
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You can get all of your data from Strava as well. The problem with TrainingPeaks as a repository for your data is that they don’t provide access to other services like Strava used to (technically Strava still does but without rate limit increases its a no-go).
Strava should just make “acting as a data hub” a premium feature, grant API access on that basis with rate limit a simple per-authorised user calc and let connected apps keep the data until user says otherwise.
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