Hi
i just wondering anyone heres have the same issue with me ?
thank you
Have you considered doing an ftp test?
I don’t know what type of workouts you are doing, volume or what your training history is but doing a test might help if the ai detection is not giving you an increase. At the least it will give you another data point to compare to.
Welp shall we all ask the usual?
Volume - Has the amount of hours you’ve dedicated to the bike changed since May 14th?
Intensity - Have you progressed through the workout levels?
Rest - Did you take any big amounts of time off, get injured, or have any trouble actually completing workouts?
I do some polarized training plan on trainer road, yes i would do some ramp test again for compare the data
i added more volume from the plan and for all intensity i did very well
I’m curious why you are testing so often? The first AI FTP detection is 2 weeks after the ramp test. Two weeks later you have another AI FTP detection (didn’t think that was even possible).
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Are you just doing traditional base 1 training during that period? If so, you are probably unlikely to see any major shift in your FTP?
Maybe I’m missing something but the dates for the ramp test and AI FTP detection do not look very far apart
Yeah the first AI one is 2 weeks after the initial ramp, but the rest are 4 - 6 weeks apart.
Is the volume steady and are you hitting your workouts power targets?
Another ramp test can confirm but I would not personally take the ftp result as being accurate. It will however allow you to compare to the first test and see what differences there are since then.
You are correct. I was missing something; the month of June…lol
I have to say, I’ve seen a drop too, but then it tracks with decreased overall load. I think TR has built a really good feature with AIFTP, and it’s not biased by whether you’re following a TR plan (I am following one), which is to their credit.
I find that with progression levels it’s not hard to be sandbagging workouts. If all your workouts are achievable, then they probably aren’t hard enough. And if you strictly follow structured training, it’s very easy to avoid any max efforts and/or personal bests, which a) doesn’t push you to adapt and b) doesn’t provide TR with any evidence that you’ve adapted.
Does TR guarantee ftp increases?
That’s the problem with selling “get faster” based on FTP numbers…
We tell our athletes all the time that FTP isn’t the only measure of fitness.
PLs are a great way to break fitness down from zone to zone, and we’ve even built in a feature that ignores FTP increases during certain situations in your plan in order to prioritize higher PLs. 
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My criticism, not towards TR although I think TR pushes things a little bit in this realm (increasing FTP), is the use of FTP as a holy grail.
And yes, lots of times your FTP will stagnate or even decrease and that doesn’t mean you’re losing fitness or being slower, on the contrary.
I’ve seen this comment so many times. But have to say, nobody has suggested a better alternative.
For sure FTP is not the be all, end all. But within the context of training across all disciplines. There’s no better choice.
With that said, I with TR would do a better job of highlighting other metrics like TTE, power records…etc.
That’s for good reason, though. People who are new to structured training tend to see more rapid fitness gains. Gains in FTP correlate very strongly will many other fitness metrics that you can think of. Typically new athletes will see their power curve rise, their endurance increases, etc.
The only other universal metric that I see is consistency.
Other fitness metrics become relevant when you are more experienced, more fit (so that your FTP gains are small and changes in fitness are not necessarily expressed in a higher FTP) and your training becomes more specific. E. g. my gains in a polarized base block are very different from this I typically see in a sweet spot base block.
To the best of my understanding all other relevant fitness metrics are
- highly personal and tied to a specific fitness goal,
- often harder to measure (think TTE tests),
- require experience so that the athlete picks the right metrics (which includes the event type, strength vs. limiter, etc.).