Look at the trees on the left here. They’re all identical. Then, it goes into a town and there are like 3 buildings, all rectangles, all the same 2 colors, all repeated over and over. NEW Flanders Course on RGT w/ JOHAN MUSEEUW *First Ride Live* - YouTube
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Than a Intel i9 12900k with RTX3080 ? on highest graphc settings ? Considered to be one (if not the) fastest cpu / graphics combos at the moment (3090 is still in the £2k region, for a 4% gpu performance increase)
Totally, see my other points about why I will be staying with Zwift
I don’t mind zwift graphics, they are fine enough at various levels. Rgt in my opinion is worse (I also don’t have a higher end pc/gpu), maybe it’s some uncanny valley stuff going on where they’re trying to make it look real and it fails versus zwift which isn’t totally trying to be photorealistic? I also found that rgt requires me to set the Assioma uno in double mode (zwift automatically doubles), but since I run my pedals in TR I can’t do that. And while I don’t necessarily do zwift to ride with people, I like doing the hilly route during longer intervals so I can claim the orange jersey
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I also subscribe to SYSTM so it was nice to get RGT for free. I’ve only ridden the Ventoux route so far and I wasn’t impressed at all with the graphics or avatar modelling (iMac at high res). To my eye Zwift has a far more artistic flair in its graphical presentation. Graphics may not be everything, but I wouldn’t say they are trivial when they are all you have to watch for hours while riding. The RGT rider avatar looks terrible when riding out of the saddle. Have they actually seen a real rider?
Events look pretty scarce too. Maybe I’ll try one and see how the dynamics of group riding work compared to Zwift. I’ll try a few of the other routes too, but I don’t think this is ready to replace Zwift or Rouvy any time soon.
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It was just an example and did not say it was great but I would not be buying a PC just to run zwift/rgt, etc. I am sure there will be improvements but I still prefer Zwift as I use apple tv and much better experience. If there is improvements that will be good for all as more competition is always a good thing.
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Agreed. Just sharing why I say it feels like Minecraft
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Which graphics you prefer is always going to come down to personal preference.
It’s the racing where RGT shines though - much better physics and all the rider positioning is handled server-side, so every rider sees the same thing.
They could definitely do with more races (when I used to use Zwift I liked that there was always a race going on at a convenient time), but that should start to improve pretty soon with all the new users.
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This
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Only caught the first half hour, but it’s discussed on the latest (and last!?) zwiftcast. Interesting from a TR/ Zwift perspective, as well as some of the tech stuff as to why RGT/ Wahoo might see faster graphic improvement.
Just as it was discussed, there would’ve been zero chance I would have, or will, by a dedicated PC for zwift or RGT. I started on zwift casting my phone, and then when that kept crashing, brought AppleTV. RGT would want to retain that somewhat low cost hardware option imo. Obviously, AppleTV still a lot more than TR hardware requirements, especially if you already subscribe to Netflix/ Prime/ GCN etc.
What did they say, out of interest?
Link to the cast mentioned:
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Something to do with the coding used. Essentially open source and/ or loads of developers with the knowledge, so if they throw enough resources they can ramp up quicker than propriety software/ code.
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Most of the Flanderian villages looks like the models were just pulled from Day of Defeat to me.
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Definitely agree on the racing part as it feels like being outside riding with a group or close enough. I have not used RGT for a while now and while Zwift has got better it still is very unrealistic.
I don’t love the look of either one. Seeing dinosaurs, riding thru lava tunnels, and ghosting thru other riders is kinda weird. Otherwise they look the same to me because I’m really not paying attention to the graphics.
They talked about being on Unity, it being a widely available skill, and the ability to quickly hire low cost workers and make big changes quickly.
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That’s sort of relative isn’t it, they would still need good math and programming skills, with the ability to write cross platform code, if I had those skills I wouldn’t be looking for low paying jobs, infact it’s long been documented that some of Zwift’s (and therefore RGT would have the same) problem is the ability to to attract people with Game Developer skills away from the Games industry, Unity just makes the pool a fair bit bigger
Yeah, the point being no one has Zwift skills, but tons of people have programmed with the Unity engine. They come on board ready to go, and with vast experience in solving the kinds of issues RGT has. When Zwift hires someone, they have to train and retain them.
Now, as for your mention of cross platform skills, there was no discussion of combining SUF with RGT.
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I still can’t get my head around Zwift’s choice to use a custom game engine 
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Tbh, if we could get RGT mods like Skyrim…oh dang. That would be so damn cool
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