RGT Cycling acquired by Wahoo = "Wahoo X"

[hurdle]

I left Sufferfest before Wahoo took it over so maybe they brought Ant+ back in.

[carytb]

Why not try this Youtube channel if you want to look at climbs. It obviously doesn’t match your speed/power but some the scenery is spectacular. https://www.youtube.com/c/BiketheWorld?app=desktop

[WombleHunter]

Ah you’re talking about in the iOS app, TR doesn’t support this does it ? (it’s hard to get a ant+ adapter working with ios)

The Sufferfest To Sunset ANT+ Support in Its iOS App - SMART Bike Trainers

[WombleHunter]

@hurdle

I think Zwift are using Xert FTP calculator.

No

[Sidi]

I have to agree with the latest Zwiftcast episode. This buyout must make TR feel nervous.

[Bigpikle]

thanks - just had a quick look and theres quite a few I’ve ridden before and even a few I’ll be riding for the first time in July. Will try that this morning as I planned a long tempo session

[Pbase]

@WombleHunter

TR users tend to use Zwift during a workout because it adds entertainment, TR make a big thing about bring your own, Systm users already have the entertainment, it is part why they use the systm, so doing a workout in Sytm and using running RGT at the same times gives you very little, especially as RGT has very little in the way of gaminfication

There are a lot of us who don’t like the Sufferfest videos. Zwift/RGT landscapes work for some of those people. I’m one of them.

[adski]

@AlphaDogCycling

I really wish some one would creat an MC Escher world: a long loop with climb sections, but no down hill sections

This seems what the magic route are for - just upload a GPX called ‘Escher stair climb’ and see how it goes?

[SirDAN]

@hurdle

left Sufferfest when they dropped support for Ant+.

Not sure I understand.

[SirDAN]

ANT+ was supported at least since 2019, way before Wahoo stepped in to The Sufferfest.

[WombleHunter]

They stopped supporting it on iOS devices, I expect mainly because ios doesn’t support ant+ and the any+ devices that used to work on the BIG apple connector are no longer available

[TooManyDogs]

Does that mean devices like the cable Util ant+ to ble won’t work?

[oggie41]

@Sidi

I have to agree with the latest Zwiftcast episode. This buyout must make TR feel nervous.

With Systm plus RGT at $129 per year it should definitely make them nervous.
There’s a lot of competition out there now, especially if Zwift put more resources into plans/workouts (or acquire a different training plan company) as a response to Wahoo X.

[mcneese.chad]

As covered briefly above, Z is not using Xert to do this. They just do a simple review of 20 minute power and anytime that value multiplied by 0.95 ends up higher than the current FTP value, it offers an update option. Nothing even close to what Xert is doing.

[WombleHunter]

@Pbase

There are a lot of us who don’t like the Sufferfest videos. Zwift/RGT landscapes work for some of those people. I’m one of them.

Cool I get that, when I’m on the turbo the more distraction the better, but I was replying to the notiion that now Wahoo own both apps, you HAVE to run them both in order to do a workout

@mailman

like you have to run System, and RGT separate to do a workout

You and I choose to run a seperate app

[fl33tStA]

Or Wahoo will buy Xert too?
Then they are the Leader!

That’s the reason why they use Wahoo X as Name today

[TooManyDogs]

@oggie41

With Systm plus RGT at $129 per year it should definitely make them nervous.
There’s a lot of competition out there now, especially if Zwift put more resources into plans/workouts (or acquire a different training plan company) as a response to Wahoo X.

I think the $129 price point is good. For me structured workouts in Zwift or RGT don’t really do it for me visually. I guess I prefer group ride, racing , or just less structured rides where the workout is partially forced by the route elevation.

And I do like the TR TrainNow and AI FTP features.

[AlphaDogCycling]

There is no way to create this type of world with a GPX based Magic Road.

Here’s an example of why you couldn’t do this with a Magic Road:

• Imagine there are three climbs, each 100m in height, and the start for lap 1 is at 0 m in elevation
• So at the end of lap 1, you are at 300m in elevation, how with a GPX file do you connect the start at 0m in elevation to the end which is 300m in elevation?

[Bbt67]

@AlphaDogCycling

you are at 300m in elevation, how with a GPX file do you connect the start at 0m in elevation to the end which is 300m in elevation?

You can… its called a cliff.

[GoLongThenGoHome]

You plot a route from the Nepalese Tibet border going east. You’ll be able to generate a 100km GPX that climbs all the way for your magic road.