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The workouts have a TSS assigned. Just look in your calendar.

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(it’s often wrong when you compare the RPE and duration in the workout, but it’s there)

No. They don’t for me.

They are all zero untill I asign them.

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If you’re saying that runs where TR doesn’t have any heart rate data can cause yellow days, this would mean their FAQ is incorrect (see previous post) or they were caused by something else, I think?

Just confirming same here. Wearing an HRM but no power and runs come in with 0 TSS. I then used the RPE drop down to get TSS estimates entered.

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The runs have a predicted TSS assigned which is used in the plan overviews (and can be seen in the Calendar). The actual TSS after the workout needs manual entry, and Hr TSS estimation never works for me there.

Given the FAQ statement that outside workouts need at least a computed TSS to be accounted for, it seems reasonable it must be an important part of the calculation.

That’s why it’s a bit weird for @Bbt67 to see yellow days being caused by days where you don’t enter the TSS, unless it’s using the TSS from the plan.

And swim days DON’T have an estimated TSS in the plan. But you can enter it, and perhaps this surprises the algo. That was the original point I was trying to make.

No, I’m saying a run on the calendar with 0 TSS causes a yellow day.
How does if it assigns a TSS (in the backgroud, if it does)?
I havent given TR any HR data, resting, max, threshold.

It might explain why a runs are heavily weighed as fatiguing but then anything outside a TR plan is.

Ah ha… you have made an assumption I’m on a triathlon plan… Im not. So runs are imported… they have no TSS but trigger yellows day (not many)

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The description of the workout has something like “run 50 minutes at RPE7”. You can calculate the TSS from this - if the workout is correctly executed the resulting (Hr or Pwr or …) TSS should be close.

But in some workouts the TSS that is in the Calendar looks pretty far off from what executing the workout would give (I think this is just a bug - it’s been this way for years).

No it doesnt, see above… an assumption, not on a tri plan… no runs in my plan.

Edit: I now see the disconnect, starting to make sense… glad we’ve had the to and fro.

Got it! So if you’d do a 2h walk in the city…it may just give you a red day? :grinning:

If those runs without any data still influence RLGL I’m not surprised multisport people are seeing strange things.

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Dont think is counts anything but runs and bike… but potentially yes.

They do in my case, pace and HR only (sometimes no HR)… but they do not have max and rest HR data… but maybe they can see a trend, pace for HR, on the activities have you done. I can only explain my own experience.

Walking my dogs and using my watch to measure the distance turned a yellow day to red when I finally uploaded it from garmin connect

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Good to know… now out of beta… hopefully it is then taking into consideration anything imported. My walks dont appear as I dont import them.

Well that was an interesting to and fro.

A more important factor is past training, whether it’s run or bike (swim is being worked on in the background). So if you do a hard run (or a long walk) and it’s a similar load/frequency over time you’ll be good. If you haven’t run in six weeks a nail a tempo run, you should expect a red day tomorrow. Same as for biking.

It’s been fun to check it thus far. The internal happy maker in me would love to see a hint of green for go on good days. That part of my brain wants the “reward”.

Curious as to how the TSS plays into each ride. If you look at my past two weeks, the X ride was by far the most taxing, It was 4 hours straight (One 2 min break to fill bottles) of constant pedaling with 0.7 IF.

If you look at the previous Monday (red tick), it was an hour longer at 0.67 IF. But on that ride there were a couple of 30+ min climbs followed by long descents. Between that and two stops at around 5 min each there was a lot more down time.

My point is if you do the same effort but on one ride you take a bunch of 5-10 min breaks and the other you take none, you would assume one would be rated significantly harder than the other.

For the record, the second red tick on the right (Ojai) felt by far the easiest. Basically it was a 2.5 hour climb followed by a one hour (pedaling descent).

where do you live in OZ mate to get climbs that long?

OZ in Los Angeles!

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Ha. Mate I live in LA. There are at least two climbs close to here that are 2+ hours. Mt baldy and ojai. I know there’s a bunch more I just haven’t done them.

But 30 min ride from my pad there are at least six climbs between 30-60 min (Santa Monica mountains)

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Great job TrainerRoad team!

I like how simple RLGL looks to the user, it doesn’t need to be more complicated than the yellow and red color warnings. They’re enough to make me question myself as to how I feel on the day, taking into consideration the rides I’ve done in the past few days, taking into consideration my planned rides for the next few days, and then make a better and more informed decision.

Also I am glad you stuck to Red Light Green Light as the name. The other name suggestions I saw on the first thread were mostly bland and too serious. RLGL sounds playful and has a distinct initialism.

Now I only wish this had been out 3-4 years ago when I was new to training and got severely burnt out a couple of times and hated cycling for a while. :stuck_out_tongue:

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