Mostly yellow and red. I will have ridden 17 days since March 1 after tomorrow, then 4 days off for travel, and back to the cold wet/snowy north.
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Sounds like you have suddenly stepped up the volume of work, so I would expect a lot of reds and yellows - so operating as it should.
I’m assuming this means you training will drop when you get back.
As Tr say, if you know the volume is higher and you know there is a planned reduction or break, then working through the reds and yellows is okay.
The feature is there to help promote consistent training and progressive overload which are known to make you faster.
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There’s Yellow and Red all over my Long Distance Triathlon/Low Volume plan
even though I’m not really doing much different than what I’ve been doing for the last 6 months:
CTL/ATL view:
Maybe it’s not very well calibrated for multisport?
Hey @Garf,
It’s okay to see yellow and even red days on your calendar. It looks like You’re only getting red days after your full week of training, and if you were planning on recovering on those days, I’d say you’re in a really good place!
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Curious to hear thoughts on a behavior (I think) I’ve observed which is a bias towards suggesting yellow days on run/swim workouts but not on bike workouts.
I’ve had a few yellow days in the last couple weeks that fell on days with a run/swim or both. (I’m on LV 70.3). On almost all of those days I’ve either accepted the annotations (and often just did the original workout 
) or declined annotation. I would expect the following day (generally a bike workout) to then be yellow but often it’s back to green!
For example the last 3 days
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Yeah but notice the yellow this week caused 2 substitutions to Endurance workouts. So it’s saying the plan as Plan Builder made it can’t work…despite this being an entirely normal training load.
Out of curiosity, are you entering TSS for your swim workouts?
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Good call. I’m not - I had assumed swim had an assumed TSS associated with it. Looks like I need to start adding that!
I’m not sure it will change what you’re seeing. I was thinking maybe it assumes swims are 0 TSS (which is what they have by default) and then it gets surprised if they aren’t.
This is possible in run workouts too, the TSS in Plan Builder often doesn’t correspond to the workout at all. That’s been an issue as long as I remember using TR.
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Red light green light only uses your activities that are on the calendar. Obviously activities on the bike count if you have power data or heart rate data. Guessing running data is included since tr does running. What other activities are factored in? I do lots of hikes with my Garmin watch so that data is there but not sure it impacts this.
No other data is used in this calculation, right? Obviously tr can only factor in data it knows about. It would be possible for tr to use the 24/7 data my Garmin Fenix 7 records about me. (Hours slept, resting heart rate, night time hrv, stress during the day, etc) But guessing tr doesn’t use this info. Seems like this data would be very important to know if my recovery is the same as normal, if it’s a more relaxing week then normal, or if it’s a very stressful week with less sleep. Any plan for doing this?
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The opposite. Its the day before is what trigger the yellow, almost 2hrs bike vs plan on 1 hr?.. not what you did on that day.
Edit: to be clear the swim and had zero impact. They would effect the 21st, which was green.
Iirc someone at TR mentioned in the RLGL early access thread that it considered the actual work done in the run vs what TR had originally estimated.
Swims don’t have that same data (TSS is set to 0 and swims aren’t imported) so I think it makes sense for me to try to manually enter the TSS
Please read my… comment you are arent understanding how it works.
Plus swims are currently not considered unless they added that in the last 24 hours.
Its not TSS dependant… why are people obsessed with this? (Because what they assume / understand) I have had 0 TSS runs trigger a yellow day… if TSS is entered maybe its consider to some degree, but time the duration, and if its in the plan is consider and weighed far more heavily.
I had no evidence swims are considered at all (tss or not.)
If you don’t like TSS then imagine the word just says “load” or “difficulty”. It doesn’t change anything whatsoever about the argument.
I’m not sure what a 0 TSS run is. You sit in the couch for an hour and look at your shoes? 
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Sorry, your comment makes zero sense.
You are making incorrect assumptions on how this works, thats my point.
Well it does…
I’ll repeat… it not only TSS dependant (its a part but works without it), it needs TSS thats an assumption you are hanging onto. Unless I’m mistaken, the TR team have said or at least implied its not based or needs TSS, that has been my experience as well.
I use TSS and like the metric and use it, why are you saying I dont, again shows you havent understood my comment… please let me know how I can make it clearer. Btw are you the same Garf from sub7? If so, high, nice to see you are doing cycling and tri.
It is any run in Trainerroad until you assign it a TSS or effort level. They are all zero by default.
Anyone. Please tell me how I can automatically import the TSS of my runs as they all come in as zero.
I repeat, because apparently the first time it wasn’t clear enough: if you don’t like TSS (and you clearly don’t), then please read “load” or “intensity” where we wrote TSS. Because it does use that, per the description. Also, notice this in the FAQ:
"Do my outside activities need power data to be considered by RLGL?
Nope! Activities that only have Heart Rate data will count if you use TrainerRoad’s Heart Rate TSS Estimation."
Oh no, the TSS word! Interesting that you need to compute it so TR can then…throw it away, according to you? Anyway…
Again you’ve not read or a least understood my post.
Did you read this?
Based on my actual HR data that TR doesnt know. Maybe it explains why the run with 0 TSS in TR are over estimated (in the background) as it knows nothing about my HR and can’t estimate TSS