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Reporting back, now on the beginning of my 3rd month back to “training”.
Red light green light hasn’t given me a red or yellow day where it has the last couple months. We will see what happens this weekend when I do a big SS/ endurance day.
I will say it seems to have figured me out again. I never turned it off or changed if from one notch below full “aggressive”. :cowboy_hat_face:

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It sounds like it’s working! :grin:

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Does Red light green light take into account future time off of training? I will be traveling for the next 4 days so trying to accumulate some TSS this weekend because I will not be able to ride.

Not sure how to flag this for the development team, but it would be great if red light would stop trying to adjust scheduled recovery rides.

I’ve got 30 min recovery rides (Dans) scheduled on Sundays after my long and hard Saturday rides. Every week, the system tries to delete my recovery ride. I mean, sure, I can decline the adjustment, but better to have the system recognize what is clearly a recovery ride. It does the same to my Monday easy spins (Pettit) which is also annoying.

No, but you are able to decide to ignore a red day if lots of rest is coming.

Riding interferes with recovery, if the fatigue is great then you’re better off not riding at all.

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I strongly disagree with this and believe it’s very individual. When my legs are really shot, like I can barely make it up my stairs after work, I’ll do Lazy Mountain and feel a million times better afterwards.

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I’m starting to find RLGL to be quite intrusive. I know you can turn this feature off, but I like the idea of it so I’m wondering if I have my settings not quite right. I do a low volume plan (Mon / Wed / Fri), mix in strength workouts on the alternate days (Tue / Thu / Sat) and then walk the dog for 60-90 mins most days. Garmin captures my strength and walks which feeds into TR. This means that almost every day is a Yellow or Red day:

I keep thinking that I just need to get through a few weeks of this before AT figures out that this is a normal week for me and stops interfering so much. I’m not all that bothered about a day being listed as yellow or red, except that very frequently AT will try to change my TR workout to either a recovery ride or a rest day. As I said, I know that I can turn off this feature but is it really an all or nothing feature? It seems that workouts outside of TR really upset this feature. Any thoughts on improving my RLGL exprerience?

Looking at your AI FTP detection increase size (8.7%), I assume you have had high FTP, now you are increasing training load and getting back previous fitness?

If so, then RL/GL may consider ramp rate too fast. If you know you can handle it, keep going and TR AI will adjust soon(ish). Also, you can configure Training Approach toward demanding or aggressive.

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First observation is that I think your FTP might still be set a little low if you can smash out level 9 SS and level 5.8 Theshold and not expect a red day.

But even with that there are some days that I cant explain - I wonder how much training stress TR is asigning those strenth workouts and walks? :thinking:

What is your training approach set to at the moment? Could just try turning that up like @svens said?

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Another crazy idea would be to actually take a rest day :man_shrugging:t2::joy:

I had a 360 FTP a few years ago and I’ve been a bit inconsistent since then with pockets of training. I’ve come up from a 200 to 250 FTP in the past couple of months. So I do understand that my load is going to be increasing, FTP bumps coming up and that is messing with the Progression Levels etc. I guess what I’m trying to understand is what conditions need to exist for AT and/or RLGL to be more settled that it is now. I’ve increased the AT setting to Aggressive and I’ll monitor how that goes for the next few weeks. Right now AT is being a bit overprotective and trying to dial down all my actual training rides which I wish it would stop doing.

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3.25 hours of TR and 3 hours of strength feels completely doable right now. I feel good and fresh. The walking is easy walking with the dog, 20 mins / km type of of pace. So really the Sunday (although that was Sat this week) is a rest day.

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i think setting aggressive will be the solution you are after - esspecially if you know 360w is achievable when training.

Might be worth just checking that the heart rate and TSS on those walks is realistic and not elevated - wrist based optical HRM could lock onto your cadence for instance?

Does TR assign TSS to walks? I don’t see any data for it in either TR or Garmin.

Due hectic local weather, my load has been 9-14h/w over couple months. When finally managed to sneak in 30h/w training week with aggressive training approach slider, RLGL gave me only couple yellow day warnings. So it is quite forgiving.

I think that you’re right when you say that it might take AT a little time to believe that what you’re currently doing is sustainable long-term.

Looking at your recent training stress, you went from a long period of nothing to really high amounts of training stress, which is exactly what this tool watches for.

If you are able to continue on training the way you are, your baseline will continue to change, and this type of training will become the norm for you from TR’s point of view.

We do weigh walks, strength training, and other activities, but those walks shouldn’t have a major impact on your fatigue. It does seem like there is some weird data attached to those, though. The thumbnails showing GPS data are very off, and your average grade is also showing some crazy figures in the image above.. I don’t think that’s going to sway things, but it might be worth fixing regardless.

I remember when Strength was added to TR that Nate said to only count the sets taken to failure. If that’s still the recommendation, I wonder if it’s also possible that the athlete is logging strength training time that the AI thinks was far more stressful than the actual work too?

Can you give any guidance for how long changes in training patterns will normalize with AT? I’m coming up on 2 months of a fairly consistent pattern and AT seems to be handing the workouts well (workout selection and FTP changes) but not the overall training stress.