First off I am a masters athlete following a Masters Plan. So on Tuesday I opted for a longer ride outside because of nice weather. It resulted in Red day on Wednesday. Today is Thursday and it has no designation (red or yellow) and my schedule calls for a VO2 max workout (Katahdin -2). How can you go from Red to Green? Seems like it should at least go from Red to Yellow especially if the next workout after a Red day is a VO2 max effort. I would undertstand if it went to Green if the WO on the calendar was an endurance WO but not a VO2 max effort. I should point out because my bike that I use for TR is in the shop and I am scheduled to pick it up today I moved my VO2 max WO from Tuesday to today. So maybe the AI isn’t accounting for the changes I made in the calendar. Either way it seems odd and in my opinion.
As far as I’ve seen, red day followed by a yellow is not standard. I can’t say that I’ve seen it unless I still did a workout or ride in the red day. If you take a full day of rest, you should be ok the following day unless you’ve really been pushing it. Also, listening to your body/legs. If the next day is clear and you have a hard workout but you are still tired, swap it for endurance or take another day off.
Independent of whether today shows yellow or green, did you rate the difficulty of your outdoor ride? I’m not sure about this, but if you rated it hard or greater, AT may have wanted to adapt your vo2 workout down a bit.
Yesterday I rated an upper zone 2 TR workout as “hard” because my legs are a bit spent from a v02 workout after a lot of weekend endurance riding. AT suggested lowering the PLs of my next 2 workouts. Not sure if AT would respond the same way to a non-TR unstructured ride, as in your case.
If you’ve completely rested on the Red day after your long ride for the following day Green would be expected. To go from Red to Yellow you would have had to done something on the red day or perhaps if your prior to Red Day ride was particularly onerous. If you don’t feel its conservative enough you can always go into your Account>Adaptive Training settings and increase the conservativeness of RLGL which might make in some cases a red day be followed by a yellow day.
RLGL isn’t telling you how you feel in the moment nor that you might be fried nor need several days to recover, it is saying that repeatadly training on red days could cause burn out. I’ll set aside my interpretation because the tool tip is pretty good here:
It doesn’t look ahead at planned work either, it is based on work done & under some circumstances, you will get red, yellow green days.
I did run easy the next day (Wednesday) on the treadmill but that isn’t reflected in my TR calendar. I have a race Sunday (which is on the calendar) so I think I will do an endurance ride today.
Rated it Marginal
@Nate_Pearson It would be nice if you could you give us a short status update about WLv2 and import of swims?
WLV2 - We are back on this project now since RLGL is out. We’re basically starting over since the last approach got us so so close but not all the way there.
That doesn’t mean it will take just as long to get to the same spot. We learned a loooottt.
We have some promising stuff for you to get levels for multiple zones during a workout. We have two approaches going on. One that’s an algorithm and one that’s AI/ML based.
We are also pretty far long a completely new AT system to pick the next workout for you. We’re about to open it for internal testing. It’s way more advanced than our current system and relies almost exclusively on AI/ML.
Thanks for the heads up. But I’m a bit confused.
This whole part is exactly what I remember you talking about in a podcast around 2 months ago. So are you starting over with WLv2 yet again for the second time now or is this referring to the start over you told us already 2 months ago?
Overall this sounds a bit like no real news to share and therefore disillusioning as it seems we should not expect WLv2 for this northern hemisphere summer once again 
Sounds interesting…tell us more in a podcast 
And how about swim import? It was right around the corner last time 
What are people doing with RLGL information for unusual periods - like holidays etc.
Just got back from two weeks in Mallorca, checked my calendar to find I’ve been in the Red the whole time 
Ironically, the only time I really felt tired was after my first 4 hour ride and after the 8 hour ride.
I ask mostly out of curiosity about what others do with the info rather than anything else.
Not been on holiday, but if I had… in response to the question… nothing, I would do what you did, enjoy your riding and look at it after the event.
I would maybe consider how I felt when back and if I felt it was needed, take an easy week. Looks like a great holiday.
Fortunately this week is down as a recovery week anyway.
Well needed 3 full days off, then 3 short 45 min “endurance” sessions for the rest of the week.
That sounds like a good idea. 
Remember, Red Light Green Light helps to avoid fatigue long-term.
The fact that you felt good for the entire week is awesome, but following the rest week this week will help to get you back on track to get back into training. 
Those types of trips are what we live for, so going into the red during them isn’t the biggest deal as long as you can rest and pay back that debt when you get home. 
Rest up! 
Did a race today, lots of TSS. Got a red day for tomorrow - expected. However, there was no plan adaptation to give me a rest day. It still has me doing a two hour achievable endurance ride, which I’m good with but I thought all red days were supposed to adapt to rest days. Apologies if this has been previously discussed. I’m wondering if the AI is looking ahead as next week is a recovery week for me.
Hi all, has the impact of running been dialled down?
I’m on the default setting for RLGL, only running on average easily once a week. I did a 10k race on Sunday, first in years, and I’m totally ruined walking down stairs sideways painful to get up sort of thing.
RLGL hasn’t kicked in even a yellow, which I’m a bit surprised about. Thought TR might want the feedback.
No way I’m doing a 90min anaerobic workout today.
Just bailed on a 1hr endurance substitute, marked it as Training Fatigue and almost all my workouts are dropping significantly.
I shifted the anaerobic to tomorrow, that’s becoming a short recovery ride.
Still no sign of a red or amber though…
Interesting. Where do you have your slider on the conservative - aggressive scale?
Maybe/probably doesn’t discriminate activities? If you regularly handle that level of training stress (from cycling) than there’d be nothing to trigger a yellow light if you do the same (or less) when running. It doesn’t have any way to know if you are sore so by the algorithm you’re good to go.
I’d be more concerned your schedule had a race followed by a hard workout the very next day. Was this a race you jumped unscheduled or is this how your schedule was set up?
It’s the default, middle.
Maybe it’s the lack of cycling workouts the week before. Maybe it’s not training that’s the cause. That would explain why RLGL isn’t triggering.
I’m still feeling ruined. Can’t recall Garmin giving me a training readiness of 1 two days in a row.