As long as you aren’t killing it on those yellow days you probably good. Just watch it
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Update your mobile app from the app store(s) and you should see it.
Haven’t had a red day in two years. Guess I need to train harder. ![]()
yes, i see after the daily update, today, for TR update on my iOS today, but not before.
Cheers.
C.
Shifting - nope, I’m on a smart bike and don’t ever change gear when on ERG mode
Respiration rate - how exactly? My HRM doesn’t provide respiration rate so how on earth could TR be measuring my respiration rate?
Fair point on cadence and the power smoothing but the only biometric data point TR have is HR and that is influenced by so many factors.
Im looking at your calendar now and we don’t suggest 4 days of rest after a ride you regularly do. Also, it’s not about a single ride, it’s about the combination
Can I share your stuff on the forum? I think RLGL is showing you why you tend to train really hard for a month or two and then take a few months easy/off.
You have a pattern of inconsistency in your volume and your rest periods come after repeatedly training hard on yellow/red days.
I think you misunderstand the feature too. It’s not telling you you CAN’T do a workout on a yellow/red day. It’s saying that it’s probably going to impact you down the road if you keep doing this.
This looks like a repeated pattern in your training. You train/ride on consecutive red days and then take time off or reduce volume a bunch after that.
You might not see it but honestly I think your career is a great use case for this and I’d love to show the details to everyone.
Love this. It’s very validating to look back on days where I felt fatigued and decided to dial back or take a rest day and see that they were yellow days at least.
Still not there, even after an update and a reboot. App version 2024.5.2.92286
I completely agree that’s an obvious conclusion to draw but is simply not the case. I’ve been doing high volume plans for years too, both self-coached, coached by one of the top coaches in my country and now with TR. And before you say it, yes, with structured intervals 3 times per week. I have been doing 500 to 800 TSS weeks for a decade (with recovery weeks diligently planned in) and sometimes do 1000+ TSS weeks as training camps (with lots of recovery afterwards).
RLGL is definitely honing in on some of my big days in the saddle, outdoors, at the weekend, but I’ve been doing those for years too. I am definitely not doing any higher volume than I’ve done before, I’ve never had a problem with over training and I am used to the amount of TSS (and structure) that I’m doing at the moment. Yet it’s strangely going Red after what I’d call a pretty normal workout and even after a workout that I rated “easy”. Looking back, it has highlighted lots of my historical days as red too, when I know (because it’s in the past!) that I didn’t have a problem with the volume, intensity or recovery at that time.
I see you naturally took an easy week after that, too!
This is funny :-D.
But being serious RLGL is saying to take a rest day after your 130 TSS ride after 3 months of almost not training. Makes sense to me.
Sorry, did not mean shifting as “gear shifting” but as cadence drifting during intervals. And yes, not all HRM provide respiration rate. But point remains: those were only quick examples of hidden variables in your ride data that might not be immediately obvious. I am sure, ML has discovered lot more them.
Well the plans aren’t designed to burn you out, so as long as you pick the appropriate volume and aren’t adding extra rides or rearranging things you won’t really need this feature.
If you’re self coaching, have a coach, doing extra rides (outside or zwift), changing volumes, doing more volume than you should, changing the days of the week, etc, then this feature will help :-D.
That’s great to know, thank you!
If it’s separate from CTL/ATL/TSB, how does it get recommendations for yellow/red days? Like mentioned, I’m actually a runner converting to triathlete so the “break” in history is actually just some random cycling while I was mostly running so the overall volume/stress prior to trainer road is running. There was no break from some form of structured endurance sport for the last few years. None of my prior runs has TSS estimated on it so that may be contributing.
As well, I have been filling out the running/swimming TSS estimates now. Will there be future integration for triathletes with running/swimming? I imagine a threshold run will strain me much more and I’m hoping this will reflect that.
This is a great use case where you can be validated by RLGL with how you feel. Sometimes we just need the permission to rest or do an easier ride.
Personally, I would do the endurance ride it suggests and skip the VO2. You don’t want to end up in a hole. Skipping the VO2 and doing an easier endurance ride will make you faster in the long run IMO.
We can do that. What type of color blind are you? We also added an icon to the upper right for color blind people. Red and yellow days have different icons.
We ran our numbers against TSB and indeed, they are different.
Glad to hear this looks spot on for you!
I’d rather not share my personal data on a public forum, sorry Nate, but I appreciate you looking into it. It’s easy to jump to the conclusions you’ve got to without know anything about my life. A couple of gaps last year were due to crashes in races (which were not my fault). Then I had to take a break later in the season due to work commitments. I can see the exact periods you are referring to and they are nothing to do with the red highlighted days.
I do really appreciate you looking into this as not many companies have a CEO who would dig into that detail! Thank you! Just not keen on sharing my personal data.
As I said in my original post, I will see how it pans out so I’ll gladly eat my words if I’ve jumped to the wrong conclusions! Just not quite adding up for me yet.
His volume is inconsistent and “It’s like any slight bit of intensity results in it telling me to take a day completely off the bike!” is not true.
Dezzy, just make your career public and then everyone can see it.
Yeah, don’t want to be missing key intensity sessions, would rather have it postponed a day or something
The next key session is only a couple days away, and if you push out a key session, that means the next one will be adjusted.
That being said, we have plans to add some intra-week programing changes. Like if you stack all the hard workouts at the beginning and all the easy at the end. We’d want to rearrange that for you. That work hasn’t started yet though.
As long as you have your hard workouts spread out it should be good.