Pro/Elite training

as an example, Kwiatkowski, last stage of Dauphine. almost 30% below 100w. And this was a lumpy stage.

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Harry Sweeny’s channel. Second year pro riding for lotto soudal.

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“Elite endurance athletes rarely practice polarized training”

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jep it is so rarely that they do it all the time if they are training. polarized has nothing to do with coggan zones and super easy & intervals of death

All I could think of yesterday watching McNulty towing Pogacar and Vingegaard over two H1 climbs while shredding the field of GC contenders was the 3x90m at 390w sweetspot intervals he was doing that Sryke posted a few months ago!!

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Robert Gesink seems to post regularly on Strava with power data, here’s a link to his profile: Strava Pro Cyclist Profile | Robert Gesink

He did one ride recently with 40/20s , pic attached below

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https://www.instagram.com/p/CgmOc7Ium0S/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Kolie Moore breaks down, in brief, MVdP Power Profile.

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https://www.instagram.com/tv/CgluMcNgQLN/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Annika Langvad still has a VO2max of 64mL/kg/min :muscle:

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She has a short video about it on youtube. What’s also interesting is that she’s confident she could get close to it again with enough training (she said she’s not going to do it though, she’s retired).

Is the YouTube video bigger than the IG one, or the same?

“with enough training” is pretty key lol.

She’s an aerobic beast. 64mL/kg/min is pretty freaking awesome for just staying active (relative term).

Another species :grin:

vo2max alone isn’t a predictor for performance at all. an athlete can be a top athlete with 64ml/kg/min or also a very weak amateur rider.

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Is that high or low for a women? Low end compared with a World Tour Women (Road Racing)?

On the related subject of how important is it…

"This means that those with the higher VO2 max scores had the lowest efficiencies and those with lower VO2 max scores had higher efficiency. A similar pattern was seen in gross efficiency. Power to weight ratio at VO2 max was not significantly different between riders, they were all in the 4.9-5.4 W/kg range. Interestingly, two of the most accomplished riders - a road race and time trial world champion, and a climbing specialist who had won five stages in the Tour de France - both had VO2 max scores under 70 ml/kg/min.

This study clearly shows that VO2 max is less important than efficiency in cycling performance and that a high level of efficiency can make up for a lower VO2 max. This pattern is not unique to cycling it has also been seen in running (3) and rowing."

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Pro Women (in cycling) VO2max…

“VO2 max—ranging from 69 to 80 ml/kg/min on the Canyon/SRAM team, according to Teutenberg. Though most of the riders fall into the 70 to 75 ml/kg/min range—a typical range for elite athletes.”

So I guess it would be interesting to know what it was when competing.

Hello Martin, old post but hoping you would see it. How was your experience working with Ciaran? I am training under him for the last 6months and have seen some good gains but not so much feedback on what I might be doing wrong or right. Wondering if you could share some insights.

She was at 74 when she was competing, that’s whay she says in the video.

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I think you got to where I was going in the end.

It wasn’t supposed to be a deep dive into what VO2max is required for what level etc.

Annika was five time World Champ and one of the biggest motors on the Mountain Bike. She also placed highly at Amstel Gold and Strade Bianche. She has all the tickets for entry.

It was more a comment on that being her “off the couch” number if you like (it’s clearly not off the couch, but she’s not training like she used to and has been recently laid up).

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And no strength training (N=3)

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Lorena Wiebes data analysis from Kolie Moore

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cg13i_eu4Ur/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

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It has gotten quiet around here, mainly because I lost interest in this topic. I must admit, I don’t find the information really helpful. 60-90 race days, superior genetics … I don’t believe much can be transferred to non-elites. And that training per se is largely overrated … for elites and non-elites.

However, whatever, this one is quite interesting

on the nose breathing, zone 1 for him. not zone 2. just saying

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