Firstly, congratulations on the new calendar. It looks like I’ll finally be able to stop using a certain “other” product and consolidate all of my training in one place!
My question relates to the Personal Records graph. Whilst riding outdoors I often get spikes on my power meter that are obviously way outwith my capabilities. Would it be possible to introduce functionality allowing me to remove these without getting rid of the entire ride?
You can exclude the entire ride from your personal records by clicking on the three dot menu on your ride online then details then uncheck personal records.
What you can’t do yet is remove specific power spikes from your data. We haven’t figure out a good UI to make this easy. Any ideas are welcome
Maybe something on the power graph that would bring up outlier detection on the time series data. Anything detected could be highlighted and the user would be able to click to deselect anything they knew was a legit effort. Accepting changes could then use local smoothing to take that spike out of the time series.
Hi @Nate_Pearson in TR when reviewing a ride we can zoom in on the power chart and see what we did over the selection. Could you just add the option to remove selection from PRs? Appreciate it could mean you need to select multiple portions of a ride if your PM has been playing up but I think it would be a nice approach?
It could also mean when reviewing the PR chart if you click on the offending PR it could take you to that selection of the ride for you to select it for removal. Hope my description makes sense.
First of all: I absolutely love the PR chart, it has helped me so much with pacing! Sadly I also struggle with power/cadence spikes that mess up my power PRs. A best (in class ) solution would be to mark the spike and click “leave out from PRs”. Second best solution would be to delete the power/cadence data for the spiked section. The data is incorrect anyway, so the only value in it is for troubleshooting the power meter with the manufacturer. I guess all of us have the data in Garmin Connect (or similar alternatives), so If we wanted to get the data back we could always reimport the activity manually.
I like the simplicity of power smoothing in Golden Cheetah. If I get power spikes in the data, I smooth it out by setting a maximum wattage and any data point in the ride over that number is changed to that number. I usually choose a high number, but not higher than my previous 1 sec power record.
Agree as well. The option to remove an entire ride from PR or part of a ride would be the best outcome. How do you feel about data not being recoverable? Well, we are talking about power numbers that didn’t happen in reality, so I don’t have a problem with it being gone forever. For users that don’t want that a) just omit the whole ride as you can do now b) don’t change anything and live with fakenews in your PR records c) download the power file using current functionality for archival and make the changes as needed
The ability to delete sections that are obviously in error, as per suggestions above, would be a good one to have. This would also be useful for circumstances in which there is a drop in connection between power meter and app. And, importantly for me, it would enable me to discard dead time – coffee, lunch stops – from the elemnt record of an outside ride.
But what we don’t have is the ability to remove just partial parts of a ride. I think we can do that. I want to do some calendar updates that I think are higher priority before we do this though.
It means you made 249 PR’s! I know, it sounds crazy, but PR’s now are in teeny increments. 1 second, 2 second, etc…I don’t know exactly, but it give a ton of increments. I miss the list of PR’s.
Nate: I also would like to see the ability to “edit” a portion that contains power spikes, rather than just deleting. I have had power spikes while doing downhills on my CX with “Stages” from just bouncing weight on the pedals. It would be nice to manually overide power data along the ride timeline where a power spike or dead spot shows would be amazing.
I totally agree. It’s something we want to do but it’s been a lower priority because it’s not the most common usecase and there’s a work around by excluding the ride…but if you got other PRs then that sucks!
Hi @Nate_Pearson, now that we are on our way into the outdoor mtb season (for us in the north at least) I want to bump this one.
Great work on the outdoor training workouts and the other releases the last couple of month! Love it But if it’s room deep down in the backlog, I hope this can be implemented some day. For all mountainbikers riding rockguardens.
My spikes (from last summer) seamed to occur together with an abnormal high cadence reading. So it’s always easy to find them, since they have a 150+ cadence. So this can be a good indicator to filter on.